WDS update revision follow - up

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10/25/2007

Hi Folks -

I wanted to get back to you with more information and guidance around the Windows Desktop Search (WDS) issue and the results of our investigation today.

As you know, Windows Desktop Search was published last February 07, as an optional update that was only applicable to systems which had WDS previously installed. Then on Tuesday of this week we revised that update package to be applicable (but still optional) to Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003 SP1+ systems which did not have WDS installed. Unfortunately, in revising this update, the decision to re-use the same update package had unintended consequences to our WSUS customers. Namely many of you who had approved the initial update package for a limited number of machines, had Tuesdays' WDS revision 105 automatically install on all clients because of the expanded applicability scope and because by default, WSUS is set to automatically approve update revisions. We sincerely regret the inconvenience this has caused and extend a sincere apology to all impacted customers.

For those of you who want to uninstall the WDS update revision released Tuesday of this week, this can be done via

1. Add/remove programs

2. Invoking spunisnts: %windir%\$NtUninstallKB917013$\spuninst\spuninst.exe /q /promptrestart

3. Using System Restore on Windows XP (not available on Windows Server 2003). This option will leave some software on the machine, but the invocation effectively removes WDS 3.01. This should only be used for conditions where the /noback switch was used.

I want you to know we are working now to correct the issue and have temporarily suspended the distribution of the Windows Desktop Search through WSUS. The current package will remain available through the Microsoft Download Center. We will make a new package available for WSUS in the near future, but not as an update revision, so that you can rely on predictable update behavior with auto-approval settings. We are also working on improving our internal publishing processes to ensure this does not happen again in the future.

Again, our sincere apologies for this publishing process error.

Bobbie Harder

Program Manager, WSUS

Comments

Anonymous
January 01, 2003
Okay class let's review.... http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archive/2007/10/25/wds-update-revision
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:56 AM by Andre # re: WDS update revision follow - up Tuesday, October 30
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
This will be much easier to deploy once Windows 2008 is more widespread, and don't confuse Windows Deployment Services (WDS) with Windows Desktop Search (WDS), because they are not the same thing. Unfortunately the buzzword bingo namespace has a collisio
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Anonymous
January 01, 2003
Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:56 AM by Andre # re: WDS update revision follow - up Tuesday, October 30
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
Okay class let's review.... http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archive/2007/10/25/wds-update-revision
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
El equipo de WSUS se disculpa por la instalacion no autorizada del software Windows Desktop search en uno de sus paquetes de actualizacion.
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
In the WSUS I disallowed it to install, now I see I can't approve it anymore wich is great.
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
thanks you admin
Anonymous
January 01, 2003
Nate Cull: This is the link that provides the information you want (albeit not for all updates). <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894199/en-us> Tuesday, October 23, 2007 [...] Changes to existing security content [...] • MS07-057: Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer for Windows (KB939653) • Updated MoreInfoURL. • Binaries have not changed. • This update does not have to be reinstalled.
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Anonymous
October 25, 2007
If you'd rather than your machines don't reboot, you can use the /norestart switch rather than the /promptrestart. This is untested, to my knowledge, and there's always a small risk when you install or uninstall something that requires a reboot and you delay that reboot. If you want to make sure that your machine reboots, /forcerestart is your friend.
Anonymous
October 25, 2007
Bobbie / Team You have really shot my confidence on allowing revisons to previously approved updates to be automatically approved. How can we (WSUS Admins) be assured that this won't happen again in the future?
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
When will be the day Microsoft will come out with a bug free product, not over charged the customers and stop sneaking into people's PCs without their permission nor knowledge? Under the normal situation, this amounts to illegal entry (if into someone's house - be arrested by the police).
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
By these standards, SP3 is an update to SP2. In fact, isn't SP3 an update to Windows XP? So Microsoft doesn't need our permission at all to install it. This is really stretching the interpretation of "revision to an update" way past the breaking point. But in my case, WDS 2.6.5 for XP and for W2K3 was "Not Approved." WDS 3.1 for both was specifically declined. There is not a single WDS related approval on my WSUS so this is not simply a re-interpretation of the rules. This is breaking the rules.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
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Anonymous
October 26, 2007
In the WSUS I disallowed it to install, now I see I can't approve it anymore wich is great. But why isn't there an option to remove it though WSUS? I now have the problem that I can't remove it thoughout my domain. Normal users can't uninstall software... So now what? How long do I have to wait for MS to solve this problem and make a proper uninstall option? This is no sollution. Some users complain of very very very slow systems. I can't uninstall it manually on all those systems.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
Yes, there is a better operating system. It's called Linux.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
That's a nice way to increase the no. of people using WDS :-)
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
Linux is not a superior operating system, you basement-dwelling fool.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
When we uninstalla WDS with script, users quick launch is getting off. How we deal with that?
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
The blog entry still implies that we had somehow previously approved an earlier version of Desktop Search, which is why it was pushed out this time as a 'vevision'. (I can somewhat understand this scenario, even though it's a new version of WDS.) However, I had never approved any version of Desktop Search in WSUS (which I verified after all this mess happened). So I'm left at a loss as to why it was distributed.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
I have the same experience, no version of WDS was ever approved here yet all of a sudden 3.1 gets installed all over the place. Also, why is it installed on servers? Clearly it's a desktop product.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
This post takes a bunch of sting out of the problem. A sincere appology which is appreciated. The throbbing headache, of course, is still there... I'm hoping you can release an 'uninstall WDS' update shortly. You're able to do this for malicious software - not that WDS is normally, but in this case something similar is warranted. I would still point out that the initial 3.0.1 update was not set to Install on my WSUS 2 server. The 2.x updates were set to install. But I'm not sure how 3.0.1 initial update was happy as decline while second update inheritied 2.x settings?
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
By default on our network our end users do not have access to the Control Panel, Windows folder, or the run command. We were discussing doing this with a script that elevates itself and removes the update, however as was noted above, when doing this it shuts off the Quick Launch bar, which without our end users are lost. With as many end users as we have, do you have an ETA on when Microsoft might release a removal tool that can be run on end user machines in order to accomplish something like this? Ordinarly it would not be a major issue, but when your team does something that results in a serious foul up you should come out with something in order to quickly and efficiently help resolve the issue for the IT staff that puts their trust in your product and services.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
I cannot believe this happend. I do not believe the reason either. Even if it were true, then it is plain stupid. In any case, people need to seek damage compensation from Microsoft. If not in the US, maybe in the EU.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
We have never approved a previous version of WDS. So why was this forced down our throats?
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
After automatic deployment of WDS, hundrets of users started indexing their network shares at the same time. It paralyzed my fileserver for hours and killed a lot of serverbased userprofiles! Worse is, that the adm-file, supposed to prevent this behaviour, doesn't work in my environment and i don't know the reason.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
As said above, why can't MS come out with a script that we can run which will elevate itself, remove this piece of malware (which is what it is) and does not touch the quick launch? using spuninst works great, but not for restricted users.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
on a side note, I had to import the .adm file in twice, why who knows... first time GPO editor did not show the new options
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
Anyone knows how to turn off indexing with GPO? I know the setting is to turn off indexing of certain paths, but how do you enter in the value? Will File:///* stop it from indexing all files on all shared/local drives ???
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
In my case the import of the .adm files was no problem. (I took the older version too, because the new one didn't contain all features) The issue is, that my clients don't care about the setting in the policy.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
@name@bill.com I don't care if it was accidental or not. It was at the least incompetent and at worst malicious. If you think the "OOPS!" defence holds water, why don't you get drunk and pass out in a stranger's home and tell it to the cop who arrests you. And please explain how the consequence is insignificant if I have to have two people spend the next week logging into 800 machines and removing this by hand. And as a final note, the only person I see using personal attacks and vitriol is you.
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October 26, 2007
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October 26, 2007
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Anonymous
October 26, 2007
"You can't blame this all on MS because it worked as advertised." Small correction, you can't blame WSUS for this, as it performed as advertised, Microsoft still made the mistake that caused this... :)
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
All the apologies and ranting are meaningless. all that matters is that Microsoft cut a check for all the man hours we spend fixing it.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
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Anonymous
October 26, 2007
Trust Microsoft? Surely you jest!
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
Fanboys need to get a life. The gap between a Microsoft OS and *Nix isn't the huge gap it was before, but you're a complete moron to say Microsoft is better. Go get a Mac for a desktop (and server). So what if you can't run Exchange, oh well. Many businesses are switching over, and Vista is a joke compared to Leopard.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
Mathew Jackson - You seemed to have missed the biggest problem with this issue. It is not whether or not Microsoft provides a fix or a promise never to do it again. It is not that they bypassed security features intended to prevent this from happening. The problem is that they COULD do these things. That they have access to bypass security they promised was there. In the bot net world, they refer to the computers in a hacker's bot net as "owned". This tells me that Microsoft absolutely "owns" our PCs - every single one of them that is on the Internet. Regardless of what settings we configure on Windows Update. You are "owned".
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
@DalePres - Not to sound rude, but DUH! As long as you are running a Microsoft Windows based system of course Microsoft "owns" it. They wrote it, they have the source code, they know ways to get into it that the public would never know and could create one if none existed.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
I Blog apology is not enough.. a full page on the wallstreet journal is not enough. Microsoft should own up to this mess... the headaches , stress and losing control of our production environment , costs our company money. Microsoft should properly apologize publicly, and compensate all companies that were hit by this , mistake or no mistake.
Anonymous
October 26, 2007
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October 26, 2007
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Anonymous
October 27, 2007
Please provide me with a tool to undelete from complete domain via WSUS.
Anonymous
October 27, 2007
Does anyone have a billing address for Microsoft so I can send them a labor bill for time I had to spend cleaning up after this (something I had specifically denied in previous revisions) on approximately 400 machines at 15 client sites? I certainly can't bill the customers my labor to undo Microsoft's latest mess, and I am not eating the labor myself... Thanks
Anonymous
October 27, 2007
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Anonymous
October 28, 2007
The ranters here need to grow up. You're getting paid big bucks to manage IT at your companies. So you had to actually earn your pay this week. Get over it. Microsoft made a mistake, acknowledged it, apologized for it. Nobody is perfect, not even you IT whiners. Does nobody remember that an Ubuntu update wiped people's home directories? Does nobody remember that an iTunes update wiped peoples hard drives a few years ago (if the system volume began with a space or whatever)? Mistakes happen. Even you IT staffers that put on an air of superiority/perfection make mistakes. And to the guy that insinuated that this was done on purpose to install WDS on "millions of desktops" in order to compete with Google Desktop (a truly horrible app that is installed, malware style, on the backs of unrelated products ranging from JVMs to video players), this problem doesn't affect the millions of home users in the first place.
Anonymous
October 28, 2007
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Anonymous
October 28, 2007
An apology on a blog doesn't mean anything, unless MS are now saying that Blogs are official means of communications. I have this stuff all over my networks, and servers, because MS messed up. I don't have the time to fix it, so my users are just going to have to live with it. At least I can pull it from my servers Also, they are not uninstall instructions. Thats a cop out. Are you really telling me that we can uninstall using the 'Add/Remove programs' feature? Really? Who would of thought of that. Certainly not network administrators. No, they would never know of that option. Pity it's not useable with hundred of PC's. I need something that will uninstall WDS via WSUS.
Anonymous
October 28, 2007
We have 'automatically approve the latest revision of the update' turned off on our campus WSUS because I don't trust any revisions to updates that haven't passed our in-house testing process. Frankly I don't understand why Microsoft uses 'revisions' so much, in fact at all. Worse, I have tried to find documentation for revised updates and there's nothing available online to say what's changed. The Security Bulletin page gets updated when the bulletin is revised - but the download page for the update itself is never changed when the revision number does. There is no 'change list', no manifest of files, no way for an administrator to tell the difference between the install effect of two identical updates with different revision numbers. This is bad, really bad. So every time an update gets revised, I treat it as a brand new update with unknown effects that needs to be tested from scratch. In the Linux package management world, there's no such thing as 'revisions'. There are packages, and there are new releases of packages. If ANYTHING gets changed, it's a new package. That's how WSUS updates should work as far as I'm concerned. Can someone explain to me just what Microsoft's rationale is for having the 'revision' mechanism AT ALL?
Anonymous
October 28, 2007
Here's a classic example of just what I'm talking about: MS07-057. I look at my WSUS screen today after a week on leave and I see that MS07-057, the October 10th cumulative security update for Internet Explorer, has mysteriously been revised and reissued as of October 24. All seven versions of it that I track are now showing as 'Not approved' because I've got 'automatically accept revisions' off. That's IE7/Vista, IE5.01SP5, IE6/2003, IE6/XP, IE6SP1, IE7/2003, and IE7/XP. The 'revisions' tab in WSUS2 simply says there is a revision as of 24/10/2007. No details. The 'more information' URL on the 'details' tab points to http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=95045, which resolves to http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms07-057.mspx The header for this, the official MS07-057 bulletin page, says: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS07-057 - Critical Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (939653) Published: October 9, 2007 | Updated: October 10, 2007 Updated OCTOBER 10. Which was the date of the FIRST REVISION. And yet I know, because WSUS is telling me, that there was a SECOND REVISION ON OCTOBER 24. But there's no mention of this in the bulletin. Nothing in the revision history at the bottom of the page either: Revisions • V1.0 (October 9, 2007): Bulletin published. • V1.1 (October 10, 2007): Bulletin revised to correct the "What does the update do?" section for CVE-2007-3893. Still October 10th. Okay, let's look at the download page for one of the actual update binaries: IE6 on XP SP2. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=513A8320-6D36-4FC9-A38A-867192B55B53&displaylang=en What do we see about update dates? File Name: WindowsXP-KB939653-x86-ENU.exe Version: 939653 Security Bulletins: MS07-057 Knowledge Base (KB) Articles: KB939653 Date Published: 10/9/2007 OCTOBER 10. Hello? W.T.F.??? What's the mysterious secret change to MS07-057 on October 24, and why should I put it on my systems if Microsoft can't anywhere document what's now in it?
Anonymous
October 28, 2007
Sorry, that last date would be October 9, not 10, I'm guessing, if it's using US date format. This weird stealth revision stuff has happened every month for about three months now. Really not impressed.
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
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Anonymous
October 29, 2007
Eric, >How can we (WSUS Admins) be assured that this won't happen again in the future? You can't, in fact you can almost be assured it will happen again. This is illegal activity that Microsoft is very accustomed to doing, and will repeat itself whenever it suits Microsoft to do so.
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
The command %windir%$NtUninstallKB917013$spuninstspuninst.exe /q /promptrestart does not work in our login scripts. Could it be that the user does not have enough rights? Please help me with an efficient tool to uninstall desktop search.
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
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Anonymous
October 29, 2007
Please issue a removal patch that can be automatically deployed via WSUS or GP that does not require user to be an admin user.
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
HarryJohnston: Thanks, that's the missing information I was looking for. I'm still not happy that I can't set up any automatic process to tell the difference between a (presumably) harmless package revision such as 'Updated MoreInfoURL' and an extremely dangerous one like 'Updated detection metadata', but this at least gives me a cumbersome manual process which (hopefully) can avoid disasters like KB917013. Oh, and what about this one: Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 (32-bit x86) "The binaries have changed due to repackaging, but they are functionally equivalent to original version." Is this harmless? Dangerous? What exactly does 'functionally equivalent' mean? I mean, a binary linked against a new library could be considered 'functionally equivalent' until it turns out to have been a security flaw. It's interesting looking at some of the historical updates too. MS07-057: Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 for Windows XP x64 Edition (KB939653) • Updated detection metadata. So, detection metadata updates happen quite often, do they? And do all of these have the potential to force a site-wide install? MS05-004: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB886903) • Added support for Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 and Windows Vista. Okay, what does 'Added support for <entire new operating systems'> mean? Is that like updating the detection metadata? Could approving a revision of a patch I've previously approved for one operating system only, now force it to install sitewide? MS07-040: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 2.0 (KB928365) • Updated metadata to add supersedence of MS06-033 and MS06-056. I presume 'adding supersedence' is harmless and only supercedes old patches, and doesn't force an install on new systems? MS07-053: Security Update for Windows Vista and Windows Server 2003 (KB939778) • Updated text and changed metadata. 'Changed metadata'. Has that changed the detection metadata, or only text and URLs? How would I find out? Update for Windows Vista (KB938979) • Changed metadata to remove supersedence of update 933928. Wait, so does this mean a patch can supersede a patch, let me disable the superseded patch... then change its mind? Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 (32-bit x86) • Updated targeting metadata for Chinese Traditional. I don't automatically install Service Packs and we don't have Chinese language... but what's 'targeting metadata' versus 'detection metadata'? MS06-078: Security Update for Windows XP (KB923689) • Updated metadata to resolve file version discrepancy in detection logic. That could be dangerous, and should be re-tested by us as a new update, right? MS07-038: Security Update for Windows Vista (KB935807) • Released new package to address an installation failure on systems missing a %windir%system32LogFilesFirewall directory. MS07-040: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.0 Service Pack 3 (KB928367) • Updated detection to resolve incorrect reporting in WSUS. Both harmless, I'm guessing? MS07-038: Security Update for Windows Vista (KB935807) • Updating the targeting detection. But that one could be dangerous, right?
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
Our environment is tightly controlled (or so we'd like to think anyway). We have installed WDS on IT workstations for testing and control it via group policy, however there were good reasons why we selected the WDS 2.X client as opposed to the later 3.x release - mostly due to the availability of ADM files and policy controls. All of a sudden I came in and found that I have a new WDS installed, that policy is not being applied, and that my indexes have disappeared - I'd say this is pretty serious!!! I too have to now find a way to remove 100's of WDS installs from unweary users . I completely agree with a previous comment I saw - where does it end? Will Microsoft now decide for us when XP SP3 gets installed because SP2 was approved previously? Someone needs to be held accountable for these stuff-ups. One more thing - can anyone explain why an updated version of the "supposed" same program no is no longer controlled by group policy and also wipes out previous indexes?
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
uhh... Bobbie, your minions are awaiting a word (ANY WORD) from you and your group. While I'm asking, a blog is not an official corporate statement. When is MS going to issue a real statement on this fiasco. Hello.... is there anybody in there? just nod if you can hear me. Is there anybody home?
Anonymous
October 29, 2007
use linux and you won't have to worry about this kind of stuff :-)
Anonymous
October 30, 2007
Put the script in your Active Directory Computer Startup GPO and this runs with the necessary rights, also /norestart if you don't want it to retart the PC [ instead of /promptrestart ] %windir%$NtUninstallKB917013$spuninstspuninst.exe /q /promptrestart
Anonymous
October 30, 2007
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October 30, 2007
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Anonymous
October 30, 2007
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Anonymous
October 30, 2007
Oh, and running Add/Remove gets rid of the application but does NOT delete the downloaded update file. So after removing the application you then find after a reboot that the 'new updates' icon appears back in System Tray, and wants you to reinstall it! You have to find the update file in C:WINDOWSSoftwareDistributionDownload and do a manual delete.
Anonymous
October 30, 2007

re: WDS update revision follow - up

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:20 AM by anon Put the script in your Active Directory Computer Startup GPO and this runs with the necessary rights, also /norestart if you don't want it to retart the PC [ instead of /promptrestart ] %windir%$NtUninstallKB917013$spuninstspuninst.exe /q /promptrestart This works great! Add a policy object and set startup script to %windir%$NtUninstallKB917013$spuninstspuninst.exe and set parameters to /q /promptrestart Link the GPO to a specific OU in your Active Directory and it works. I tried it on several systems. Offcourse it can take a while for your policy to be replicated so to test go to the commandprompt on the workstation and use gpupdate /force

Anonymous
October 30, 2007
Mr. Bobbie Harder, Your version of events is NOT believable. Try to come up with something more plausible.
Anonymous
October 30, 2007
really, who can completely trust M$ products ? Just check: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/02/19/0750247 http://cryptome.org/nsa-ms-spy.htm ;)
Anonymous
October 30, 2007
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Anonymous
October 30, 2007
Does nobody remember that an Ubuntu update wiped people's home directories? Does anyone remember Windows allowing their hard-drive to be corrupted? I waited {and my operating system allowed me to wait: no automatic updates ;) } until the dust had settled and then i did an update. I have never lost a file or been disgusted by anything Ubuntu has done on my system, and am never at a loss with Linux. Stop whining about incompetency. Those who are incompetent will stick with what allows them to be incompetent: Windows. Those who are competent will just switch: Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, etc.
Anonymous
October 30, 2007
As a WSUS Admin I have some questions, concerns, and comments on this recent WDS 3.01 update that was forcibly shoved down our throats. First off, this update came in with an Approved Status when I had not clearly approved the prior version. All I am coming across is posts stating that if you had WDS 3.0 previously "Approved for Install", than when the 105 revision of WDS 3.01 came in to our WSUS it would have inherited that Auto Approval. I have scoured my WSUS and I do not have a trace of WDS 3.0 on my system, I do however have WDS 2.6.6 from November of 2006 as well as WDS 2.6.5 from July of 2006 that are "Approved for Install". But this is a completely different version of the product and does not warrant the next version to come in Auto Approved. Now, not only did this update come into WSUS Auto Approved, but it came in a silent mode. We have our GPO for Windows Updates set to "Auto download and schedule the install”. This was not the case; our machines had this installation of WDS 3.01 (Revision 105) happen in the background without user input. WDS 3.01 (Revision 105) came in with the same behavior as Windows Defender Updates, once approved, they install in the background... So now we at the point of having to deal with WDS 3.01 (Revision 105) being installed in the background without us knowing about it to almost every machine on the corporate network. The IT community starts to notice this and calls Microsoft on update they sent out. So the next evening we get another update into WSUS which is Revision 106 of WDS 3.01. This Revision 106 comes into WSUS with the proper settings of not being auto approved for installation. The only problem is this new update of WDS 3.01 (Revision 106) which has conveniently cleared out the prior Revision 105 of WDS 3.01 is not even available to be "Approved for Install". WDS 3.01 (Revision 106) is now an Expired Update. (“The selected update has expired and cannot be approved for installation. It is recommended you decline this update.”). Now we are left with over 1,000 machines that have a standard image on them with WDS 3.01 and close to another 150 machines with our standard image that hadn't checked in with WSUS yet and did not get the WDS 3.01 (Revision 105) Update before it was replaced with the Expired WDS 3.01 (Revision 106) Update. So where does Microsoft stand on this update, you already caused us to deploy this application to over 3/4 of our machines, now we can't finish the remaining machines that have yet to receive the application???
Anonymous
November 02, 2007
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Anonymous
November 02, 2007
One more thing: How ironic is that when you do need a patch for a legitimate OS or Office Suite issue that's not publicly available for download, MS support really gets under your skin before they provide it to you, to "assure" and whatnot... Last I called for a particular patch, I had to talk to 3 layers of management somewhere half way around the globe, providing them everything from the KB articles to diagnostics data, to blood samples to find out that they didn't "feel comfortable" that patch would fix our issues, and that our Excel issues were definitely due to us running VMWare in our environment. I ended up downloading the patch from p2p network instead, and it did fix the issue they described in KB. And here we get a "givaway" bananza on the updates we don't even want. Followed by a "sincere" apology.
Anonymous
November 03, 2007
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Anonymous
November 03, 2007
I'm sure it's been said enough - but what a nightmare for the admin that has to deal with the complaints from users saying there desktops are slow. I've somewhat limited through installing a Group Policy with the v3.1 adm file shipped with the'update', to limit what WDS searches. At first I thought it was Microsoft idea of getting in to beat Google Desktop - which hides itself in many other programs (Adobe Reader / Real Player etc).
Anonymous
November 06, 2007
Where is the WSUS removal tool? We can't even uninstall this mess ?!?!
Anonymous
November 06, 2007
I HAD DE ACTIVATED AUTOUPDATES DUE TO A DEFENDER UPDATE WHICH REMOVED MY SECURITY SUITE OPERATING ICON, AN HAD TO SEARCH THROUGH THE COMPUTER UNTIL I FOUND THE PROGRAMME, WHICH HAD ITS LOCATION HIDDEN DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WAS A SECURITY PROGRAMME, CREATE ANOTHER SHORT CUT, AND FINALLY GET IT TO THE SYSTEM TRAY, AND ALSO MAKE IT A START UP ITEM. SO I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS SEARCH DESKTOP ITEM GOT INTO MY COMPUTER, UNLESS AS SOMEONE SAID, IT WAS FORCED THROUGH BY MICROSOFT , WHICH HAS A TRUSTED STATUS.
Anonymous
November 06, 2007
So Bob, What's the deal when are you going to fix this monumental cockup properly? We have been left waiting far too long already.
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November 07, 2007
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