Halo 2 vs. Half-Life 2

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11/09/2004

Well, it's not really like that, but Steve posted that he's tempted to get an Xbox simply to play Halo 2. I'm having similar pains over Half-Life 2. My beautiful wife picked up a copy of Halo 2 for me this morning at Target. On my home PC, I've got a ready to activate copy of Half-Life 2. The problem is, after playing the source beta for Counter-Strike 2, I find that my video card isn't quite up to snuff for the HL2 release. So my conundrum is, do I buy a new video card so that I can play HL2, or do I save myself 250 bucks and just get some of the other great new Xbox games that are coming out this fall? The mind reels...

Update: I'm going to get a new video card and at get the game.(Eventually) I didn't mean to start a Vi vs. Emacs war, my only point was that I don't have to screw with the console games at all. I can just pop a disk in and play it. The PC is a little tougher, as I want to play wide screen and I want it to run well. I love playing Counter-Strike, so there was never really a question that I would get the software. I'm also looking forward to playing with the source code and maybe building a level or two. :)

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Anonymous
November 09, 2004
I'd stick w/ the xbox. aside from H2 there is also MechAssult 2 wich in my mind is going to be a better online game than H2 (i've played beta versions)
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November 09, 2004
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November 09, 2004
You could wait until HL2 comes to the Xbox :).
Anonymous
November 09, 2004
Well, I'm all for Half-Life 2 (http://blogs.msdn.com/mswanson/archive/2004/11/09/254589.aspx), and yes, I had to upgrade to a new machine to prepare for the full experience: http://blogs.msdn.com/mswanson/archive/2004/11/02/251391.aspx
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November 09, 2004
Lazycoder weblog » Half-Life 2 rendering paths
Anonymous
November 09, 2004
Yeah, I'll probably go buy a 6200 when I can. I was just thinking out loud. :)
Anonymous
November 09, 2004
Well I see that a new ati card x800xt is 450$ now. I bought new amd64 6 weeks ago and then found that i could not find a x800xt card to buy (they were all out of stock). So i have been been waiting for 6 weeks to get new video card. Now that i have paid for my pc, it is hard to let go of another 450$ for a game card. If bought the new card with the other 1500$ it does not seem that bad. But..spending 450$ for game card sure seems like a lot of money. What to do?
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November 10, 2004
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November 10, 2004
Halo 2 is obviously great ............but Halflife 2 will be a better fps.......in my opinion
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November 10, 2004
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November 10, 2004
it has a texture problem in the video clips,
silly menu functions
glitchy animations for sp
and bad radio sounds

but Multiplayer is awesome
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November 12, 2004
i agree with the person above HL2 is going to be way better just go get a new video card, SERIOUSLY, it isnt that big of a deal!!!
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November 12, 2004
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November 12, 2004
I've been waiting for HL2 since I finished the original,lol. Did the Halo thing, didn't work for me. Looked too much like a per-schoolers game. HL2 is going to be "the best game of all time", on any format be it pc or xbox.

DDog
Anonymous
November 12, 2004
I agree wid wee man Halo 2 is a kicker... Halflife 2 is good but not the same enjoyment
Anonymous
November 12, 2004
According Game Informer
Hl2 got 9.5/10 whilst halo2 got 10/10

im not sure how much biased each review has - i.e. does the reviews review in terms of every other xbox only games or all games.

though hl2 and halo are 2 different games. both have aliens but both are different. Halo is for multiplayer. single player is massively short. half life 2, i rekon, will be best fo sp. cs 1.6 according to friends is more fun than source. though that could be due to mods available for 1.6

get a better pc. cause the no. of games that will come out will be more in favour of pc. wait for san andreas for pc. xbox has a limited life - till xbox '2'comes out.
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November 12, 2004
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November 13, 2004
NINJAS
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November 13, 2004
NINJA STRIKE FORCE Z!!!!
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November 13, 2004
Ok..well If you want to claim that Duke 3d had a story..then you have to trace back to the roots of Wolfenstein..that had a story too. Im talking REAL story, as in..the first level doesnt start you off killing a bunch of badguys..im talking progressive story..intriguing..(starting on the tram..meeting coleagues ect..) but valid point
Anonymous
November 13, 2004
Ok..well If you want to claim that Duke 3d had a story..then you have to trace back to the roots of Wolfenstein..that had a story too. Im talking REAL story, as in..the first level doesnt start you off killing a bunch of badguys..im talking progressive story..intriguing..(starting on the tram..meeting coleagues ect..) but valid point
Anonymous
November 13, 2004
Ok..well If you want to claim that Duke 3d had a story..then you have to trace back to the roots of Wolfenstein..that had a story too. Im talking REAL story, as in..the first level doesnt start you off killing a bunch of badguys..im talking progressive story..intriguing..(starting on the tram..meating coleagues ect..) but valid point
Anonymous
November 13, 2004
halo 2 is a great game i bought when it came out but i much as it hurts me to say since i have waited to years for it the single player was short so i dont think it can be compared to half-life 2 but i am gonna get xbox live to find out how good halo multiplayer is.
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November 14, 2004
Well I would always go for the PC (Half Life 2). If you really want Halo², download an emulator and play it. Halo² is basicly the same as Halo 1, it looks about the same.

The gaming community behind HL² is also much larger then in Halo2. Never, ever go for an XBox.
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November 14, 2004
1day 5hours 28 min and counting

http://www.planethalflife.com/
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November 14, 2004
since i guess i was hating a lil on halo i guess i should defend it a little, the story may have been poor but its the same concept of the second matrix, its just a filler to the third game which will no dobut be put off until Xbox 2's release so that should be sweet
Anonymous
November 14, 2004
Well Said Batman
Anonymous
November 14, 2004
where did all my text go that i type about halo 2 vs HL2? can someone answer that
Anonymous
November 14, 2004
Hey Persian,

I hid some the posts with too much profanity in them. It's nothing you're saying in particular. You can say anything you want about the games, just keep it a little cleaner.

Cheers,

Brian
Anonymous
November 14, 2004
Ok sorry about that. Is it possible if u can put it up the things that i said and put *** instead of the bad words. I will keep the profanity to a 0.
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November 14, 2004
Thanks very much and im sorry about the language.
Anonymous
November 14, 2004
Hey Brian, i was wondering if you could put out my posts that had the profanity in them.. and put *** where curse words are.. i apologize for the language.. but this topic tends to get me kinda heated.. i will not use any more curse words... i am sorry...
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November 15, 2004
Half-life 2 will be out in less that 24 hours, and it is going to be the most revolutionary game of all time... Halo 2ers need to just go home... get some yogurt and login to Xbox live and play on a child's playgorund. As for November 16th, PC Gamers... Prepare yourself for weeks worth of bad grades, and alot of caffene, because Half-life 2 is going to take over our lives... Can i get an Amen?
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
Also, can anyone who is familiar with PC's and system requirements and specs... Can anyone tell me if my PC will be able to run Half-life 2 good... like where i will be able to optimize all of its revolutionary stuff?
My system Specs are:
Intel P4 1.8 ghz
768 MB RAM
Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
Dell 4500 Motherboard
PLZ REPLY, THANKS ALOT!!
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November 15, 2004
Someone plz respond to my Techincal Specs Question 2 posts up
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November 15, 2004
...ur drivers :)
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
My 512 stick of ddr-sdRAM= PC2100
My 256 stick of ddr-sdRAM= PC2300

What now Persian?
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
Oh and Persian.. do you have an AIM or Yahoo Screen name? If so E-mail me and tell me at Golfgiant2003@aol.com
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
ok that good. update ur graphics card drivers and if u can try to overclock ur cpu and ur should be fine. i sent u a email with my aim sn go chack it out. talk to u later
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
Persian... I don't think i can overclock my cpu... first because its intel.. and second because its from Dell.. if you know a way i can... tell me man... also.. i didn't get that screenname man.. just type it in the forum...
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
Hmmm....
Half Life 2. Not a Microsoft product [ugh, but Vivendi... worse] :~) Too bad no Linux support [but then I don't think we want Steam on Linux...]
Plus I've a Physics degree, so...

On the other hand, having an XBOX would be sweet - I could use it as either a console or a MythFrontend! (prob. would have to drop more dough than a 2nd hand PC though). And Gabe is ex-Microsoft, too...

Oh, and for the record:
Vi [or Vim] over emacs any day. [I like the design of emacs, just don't like to use it]

Also, gnome over KDE

Linux over Windows

FreeBSD over Linux

Hmmm... what other holy wars can we start? grin

Hey, Persian, that sys is WAY over-the-top. What do you do that needs that kind of horsepower? [Also wonder what your power bill runs up to...]

My 2500+, 512Mb OCZ, and 9500 [yes, Linux using an ATi card. yes, stupid of me] are more than enough to handle games, C/C++, Matlab, Java, et al. for me...
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November 15, 2004
there is a way to overclock dell comps but my friend knows. try to find out online. tonight midnight game on.
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
Oh yeah Half-Life 1 not 2 but 1 won over 50 game of the years
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November 15, 2004
It amuses me how many people compare games that they have not even played yet. Console games cannot match pc games simply because of the limited resolution of a television. Anyone that claims Halo 2 will prevail, should have stayed in school and got an education. It takes little education (1st grade level) to understand there can be not compitition. So... time to re-enroll in grade school and buy yourself a PC.

Regards
Anonymous
November 15, 2004
You guys can't really compare the graphic engines and stuff, because think about it...Xbox is 4 years old, Halo 2 pushed it too the max. The glitches in Halo 2 you guys talk about, are because there is no loading time between missions. They take textures and sounds from different parts of the game. Plus, it has 120 minutes of cinematics in it...That's just plain sweet...

PC is stupid because to play most decent games, you gotta have like a $1500 computer, when you could play a game that is just as good and easier to play with friends using your TV and a $150 Xbox... No comparison.. You PCers are paying $1300 more for things that don't effect the game experience, like realisticness of the character's skin...

Console>PC
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November 16, 2004
lol had alot on my mind :P
Anonymous
November 16, 2004
Well, half life 2 came out today. And from what I've heard about it- it has its flaws. (mostly story-wise, and vehicle controls) I don't believe I've heard anyone gripe about any flaws in Halo 2. Nuff said?
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November 16, 2004
1 day xboxs players will go 2 nursery and learn dat they have been playing a machine which is sutable 4 a 5 year old that is reatarded and has mental age of 2. 1 day u find a pc by chance and play hl by chance and u will die of shock.
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November 16, 2004
You guys have points that are NOT valid, whatsoever. I'm not saying I don't play computer games. And I'm not saying that Halo 2 will be the best game for any time to come. I KNOW that computers are a lot better for gaming, because only time is the limit to what they can perform. What I am saying, is that you guys rant about a game that isn't what it was cracked up to be. And what I believe, is that halo 2 WAS a game it was cracked up to be. Will half life 2 have mods that make it a cool online experience?- yes it will. Those are one of the good points to it being on the PC. But what I explained was, valve didn't put out nearly as much to the gamer as bungie did, and bungie was the one WITH the limits. :]
Anonymous
November 16, 2004
By the way, I read that the it takes about 20ish hours to beat half-life 2. So theres your average for that game. And I'm not saying that I just play xbox, I prefer to play with a mouse and keyboard. We're not talking about what "potential" a game can bring. We all know that thers not much to add to a console game, why bring the point up? To pretend like your point is superior? I like to discuss what the game BROUGHT before the mods.
Anonymous
November 16, 2004
Coffinfeeder:

as i was trying to explain in the paragraph i marked Gameplay, yeah , its traditionally buggy, but HL'ers are a superior breed of player cause we can and often do surpass such limitations when they occur.

And I said nothing about Counterstrike. Personally, i find that mod to be boring and repetitive. Frankly i dont know why ppl always say CS as if thats all there is to HL.

Anyways, the story is better in HL, always have been. The few "flaws" that exist are few and far in between.(that and updates are free) Gameplay is superior, both Singleplayer and Multiplayer. We only seem militant because it is obvious by our perspectives. Plus, we can do more than just play games on our PC's, so that makes it more than worh the investment.

BTW, the only thing Halo2 can wipe the floor up with is oldie games from the last century. HL2 is already good and will only improve with age as more games and options are added.

You're only as flawed as your maintenance.....
Anonymous
November 16, 2004
It's hard to compare the two, but if you read the reviews man. There is very little complaint over the gameplay in halo 2, and that is with the 'limitations of the console'. Those guys at bungie know how to make a fun game- period. I'm disappointed that there can't be any mods for halo 2.

Anyways, where do you get that 'superior breed' nonsense? I'm the type of person who would admit when a glitch is bad, and not try and make it sound good for the game. Valve is supposed to remove the glitches before shipment, its their job. Just because someone plays half-life doesn't mean in any way, shape or form that they are 'superior' to other gamers. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, just because someone doens't like half-life doens't mean that they're not a gamer that could rule those servers if they played it.

I've played half life 1, man it was a borefest. I guess thats because I'm used to more fast passed games that don't require you to solve irrelevent puzzles. But to each his own. I'm sure it has some very respectable points as wrelease. If you want to consider all of those gamesell.

The games I'm talking about that halo 2 wipes the floor with is every game before its "old century", then ok.
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November 16, 2004
Half Life 2 is the greatest game ever made..so far anyway..heres to half life 3...not to say halo 2 is'nt great..it is..it just aint half life 2
Anonymous
November 16, 2004
I agree, just play both games decide, i enjoy paying halo 2, is the best console game, and i can,t wait to play half life 2 on mi xbox
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November 17, 2004
Congratulations, you're all morons.
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November 17, 2004
my old system from 2000. 256 ram, 2..oghz, gforce4mx420. Its alot better than an xbox.
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November 17, 2004
you can get one for like $400...
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November 17, 2004
That really isnt the point, though. The point is that Technically, there is no way that Halo 2 is better than HL2. The plot could have been beter than HL2, but it wasnt. It was decidedly broken. It was interesting, but it stopped. It just cut off. Basicly, you just have to wait for Halo 3 on Xenon to even finish the game. Its not a cliff hanger, its just annoying.
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November 17, 2004
Well, having just beat Half-life 2 (took me about 14 hours) I have to say it was on of the most amazing experiences ever. The graphics, the physics, and the story are all wonderful, but, in response to Ryan... Same thing about the ending as Halo 2. Game stops, gotta wait for Half-life 3... I like them both but for different reasons, I love playin on a lan game with all my friends on Halo/2, but Half-life is so realistic it's like living the game. Just my 2 cents.
Anonymous
November 17, 2004
Its true that both games are good, id just rather waste money on HL2 than Halo 2 because, well, HL2 is better.
Anonymous
November 17, 2004
Now that is a valid response :P I'd do the same, but I just dont have the money to dish out into a new comp/vid card. The Environments on HL 2 look pretty awesome, thats what I wanted to check out more than anything.
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November 17, 2004
thats pretty much where i stand too, Halo 2 WOULD be really cool, if we didnt see everything in Halo 1 already... lol
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November 17, 2004
Where is this idea from that hl2 will come out on xbox? Did the first one come out on xbox? NO! Valve is closer with PS, the first game came out on PS2. Computer got halo, and we wanted to give it back because microsoft delivered us with a glitchy game. However, we kept it, because occasionaly the game's multiplayer deserves to be played....even though I play other things more often. Eventually, xbox owners will realize that they are not getting hl2, and pc owners will get halo 2. Then we will have a halo 2 burning party because microsoft will once again give us a glitchy game that no one will want to add on to or mod. When the 2 games are compared on pc, hl2's engine will be well established with countless great multiplayer options and modifications, halo2 will probly just glitch out of existence like its predecessor for computer.

WHAT IS HIS POINT????
Well, I just don't like how xbox owners in this forumn are falling back on how if the 2 games were on the same platform halo 2 would win. That simply isn't true if you look at past events. The fact that they ARE on different systems is a completely relevent argument in evaluating which should recieve the best game award.

In addition, I've already shown how the gameplay, graphics, and versitility of the pc bring half life 2 a few steps or leaps ahead, now I have an argument built against the "same platform" idea. Any others pulling for halo2 want to add something?
Anonymous
November 17, 2004
Halo 2 vs Half Life 2
I'm a xbox gamer and a PC gamer, but mostly I play the PC. (Call Of Duty, Warcraft 3 <- godly games) I'm not planning on getting halflife 2 cause my comp isn't "powerful" enough. The thing with Halo 2 : one, you guys need to stop harrassing halo 2 cause its a great game, just because halflife 2 has better graphics doesn't mean its gonna be so awsome. halo 2 does have holes in its storyline but everything else it just great.
P.S.- Halo 2 will outsale Halflife 2 because you need a really good PC to play halflife 2, all you need for halo 2 was a controller, and an xbox. (DUH)
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November 17, 2004
I just beat Half-Life 2; I haven't tried the Halo's but I'd suggest getting video card because Half-Life 2 was as good as first I believe. Besides, you should be ready for any more good games that come for PC anyways.
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November 17, 2004
The lowdown is this.

Halo 2 scored .2 points higher than Half-Life 2 on gamespot and PC Gamer.

Halo 2 is more stable than Half-Life (it is on a console so generally stability is a given), and the multiplayer is what makes Halo 2 special, not the single player.

Half-Life 2's graphics and single-player is much better, but the multiplayer is simply counterstrike (ripoff of Rainbow Six anyways) with a new engine. Xbox live really is a since to use, and the Halo 2 multiplayer options are just phenomenal.

If you love multiplayer, go Halo 2.
If you love single-player, graphics and story, go Half-Life 2.
Anonymous
November 17, 2004
btw I happily own both and am pleased with both equally :)
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November 17, 2004
Agamemnar:

-PC gamer doesn't rate console games.

-Half-Life2 is stable on computer nerd's computers because we own all the bells and whistles that keep our pc's well above what is required to just simply run the game.

-Multiplayer is not just counterstrike, when I bought it, I got all my favorite multiplayer games with the new source engine. Basically all of them are redone with physics and new effects, levels, etc. I'm still enthralled with this new tech. Not to mention, the real key of a game like HL2 is that within a month or 2, we will probably see more activity from the modding community than ever before, and multiplayer will take care of itself.

-Counterstrike is nothing like rainbow six. Have you played rainbow six? I have. It's very slow paced and more realistic compared to counterstrike. The reason counterstrike has become so popular is because of it's quick learning curve, combined with how easy it is to run, add to it the fast paced action, and finally, the ability to jump right in and start playing. I haven't seen another game that is in quite the same style as counterstrike, but your welcome to find one if you like.

Vince:
Come on dude, respect our right to have an opinion. Some of these guys have made some very insightful arguments for such a mute point. Sometimes it isn't necessarily WHAT were arguing about thats important, it's being able to prove why your opinion is better than someone elses. It's the best kind of critical thinking there is. So please, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
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November 17, 2004
it depends on whether u want to wait for halo2 to come out for computer, or play it now on xbox along with other new xbox games. u decide.
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November 17, 2004
oh and about Halo and HL, i say get both lol.
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November 18, 2004
just thought i let everyone know that you can play Half Life 2 at Top Graphics with a Radeon 9100 - And Doom 3 at Medium Graphics. :D:D:D:D
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November 18, 2004
Ok, but Halo will stop once it's over... Half life 2 has mods.
Anonymous
November 18, 2004
What are you talking about you can download patches + content from xbox live.

We're talking about microsoft here... the company with unlimited funds.
Anonymous
November 18, 2004
The Producers of bungie spend way too much time on gameplay and level design, they never thing that maybe halo 2 was very short even with thos mamoth sized maps. in the DVD all they yap about is that they spend so much detail on the level, like what u thing that gamers sit there and look at every wall. so thats why halo 2 was pretty bad. Even after spending 3 years in production, halo 2 was a dissappointment. not to mention the ending. ( which i won't spoil) Halflife 2, i think this game gots the whole package, halflife plays like a movie. so overall, halflife 2 will beat halo 2 but in the end halo 2 will sell out halflife 2 anyday.
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November 18, 2004
Again, you have not countered my multiplayer argument, which veritably adds a ton more value to Halo 2 than HL2 has to offer.

Single player is for loners.
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November 18, 2004
True, I agree Multiplayer is better for Halo 2 but that does not mean it is a better game.
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November 18, 2004
Your right I forgot about all the insane multiplayer stuff that half life 2 is coming out with,that is going to be awesome, MY BAD. But you have to except the fact that for the time being anyway Halo 2 has better multiplayer than Half-life 2.
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November 18, 2004
I have played hl2 a lot and halo 2 a lot. I like them both but to say the technology of one is better than the other IS IGNORANT!!

You probably havent a clue about computer programming either.

HL2 was written with the help of a novelist and even the help of psychologist with respect to characters. You dont even have your facts straight.

And I agree Halo 2 is a good story. What I like about HL2 though is you have to figure the story out which by looking at forums, most people havent because they missed a few parts in the game. And it leaves you with several unknowns which is left of for the geeks that speculate, Me being one of them haha.

I think everyone pretty muchly knows how Halo 3 will end. Rings will be stopped, MasterChief will live, everything goes back to normal. Like a predictable James Bond movie. Sure theyre are gonna be a few exciting points but in HL2, the ending leaves it wide open for any possibility. Maybe even 2 or 3 more games its so wide open, I hope not though.

You should play both before before you form an opinion.
Anonymous
November 18, 2004
Hah, halo = way more original story. You can't argue the point.
Anonymous
November 18, 2004
Im not saying that counter strike source is better multiplayer im just saying that when the time comes which will probably be not to far away, half-life 2's multiplayer will over come Halo2 with its amazing engine. Im agreeing with you halo'2 multiplayer is better but only for the time being. I give Halo 2 all the credit in the world for coming up with such a great multiplayer game, half life 2 dident, but it will. Got to go
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November 18, 2004
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November 18, 2004
I saw the gamespot review for halflife 2 and they said that the storyline for HL2 is a disappointment and they said that the enimes in halflife 2 are pretty easy, try playing halo 2 on heroic or legendary.

PS. Halflife 2 is a pushover. (played it, beat it) And JUST BUT HALFLIFE 2 FOR THE COUNTERSTRIKE SOURCE, NOT FOR HALFLIFE 2 CUZ ITS A DISSAPPOINTMENT. (Halo 2 was a dissapointment but only the ending)

Ha! NErds!
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November 18, 2004
Haha PC Gamer gave it best game ever. Much bigger than gamespot also.

Im sick of arguing it is pointless. HL2 and Halo 2 are great games. HL2 has the upper hand though.
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November 18, 2004
I have both games. Beat Halo 2 a few days ago and am in the middle of HL2. I like them both. But I'm leaning towards HL2 just because it's my type of game.
They're both really good. HL2 has much more eye candy. Halo looked like a kids cartoon to me. HL2 "feels" real.
In terms of gameplay you can't compare the two. They're a different type of game. It's like comparing a Yamaha R6 (a motorcycle for those of you that don't know) to a Ferrari 355. Yeah, they both go fast on the road...but that's it. They are both great, maybe one is faster than another, but you still can't compare. They're designed for different tastes.
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November 18, 2004
I have played both Halo 2 and Half Life 2. Let state by saying this, Both games are masterpieces and are the pinncle of gaming. Ladies the bar has been raised.

Halo 2 is revolutionary for bringing muiltplayer modes that are fun fun for the XBOX. But being a PC gamer also it brings nothing really new in the genre of FPS. Halo 2 graphics are good, but as Coffinfeeder (11/18/2004 6:43 PM) said in the forum don't compare graphics of a XBOX to PC. The PC wins in this department hands down and don't dulude ur self otherwise.( I could list reasons why, But u've heard them before, why bore u?) . Again I state Halo 2 is a excellent game , best of the best in console gaming. Halo has a great story, although predicatble? ...I leave that in your opinion. I thought is was pretty good.

Half Life 2
What can i say i luv this game. STunning Graphics... ,Great gameplay, intrictate story and so on. It is the godsend of FSP i have been waiting for six years. I am a big fan of Half life 1 for that is the game that ushered in a new age of FPS that would follow- like Halo!!! It the greatest Landmark in gaming.

(so many u will mark me biais but I did say " Halo 2 is a excellent game , best of the best in console gaming")

HL2 follows in the same footsteps as it's predessor. As for HL2 Muiltplayer i can understand why they put CS sorce instead of muilipalyer of its own. BECAUSE THATS ALL I WOULD PLAY IS CS. But why rant about it. Am going to play right it now. =p
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November 18, 2004
Its impossible to win the argument that Halo 2 is better based on everything but availability.

Not everyone has a good enough pc to fully enjoy it. Only problem with HL2

Anyone who thinks Halo 2 is better is or has the mind of a 12 year old.
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November 18, 2004
"Now, I've read Joseph Campbell's Hero of A Thousand Faces and Robert Mckee's Story, which explain what is a good story and what is not."

Dunno who's dumber the people who write contrite B.S on what makes a good story or the people who believe it after they read it lol.
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November 18, 2004
Halflife 2 im talking about if u dident know
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November 18, 2004
BTW your eyes pick up lag when it hits 13 fps. anything higher its not noticable
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November 18, 2004
If they gross that much, maybe HL 3 will come faster, then 4 and 5 :D!!!! Well since they have made the bases of the engine now (which prob took the most of the time) the rest of the HLs will come faster.
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November 18, 2004
I sure hope so. Haha if you net the 40 million dollar cost and distribution cost in stores, I bet it would still be about a billion. Mainly due to steam. Steam is a direct distributor of games now= a lot more money for valve. And rightly so.
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November 18, 2004
Wow you missed the entire vibe that Valve goes for and has publicly stated many times. You don't see Gordon, or hear Gordon... BECAUSE YOU ARE GORDON. They want the immersion of the player as the character. They want you to turn to a buddy and say "Look what I just did..." Not "Look what I made Gordon do..." In an interview I read somewhere Valve was quoted as saying that they actually regret even giving him a name at all. You figure out the story as other characters and events tell you the story. In HL2 all the characters assume you know what's going on but in reality you are figuring it out yourself. Many people and developers look at this as the best way to right a video game's story. Video games differ between movies and books because of the interactivity. Instead of watching or reading you are doing.... You are the character.
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November 18, 2004
And stupid plots dont exactly entertain the crowds. They may entertain you but not the majority.
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November 18, 2004
Aliens wasn't a stupid plot and Ripley was as transparent as glass. lol.
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November 18, 2004
"There is difference between a good movie and an entertaining one. I can be entertained by the stupidest non-plot movie ever, and can say i enjoyed it. Then id forget it. In a good movie i can be entertained,bewilldered, hit by many emotions, and give me a lasting feeling after."

I have to agree on that. Independence Day (the movie) has a lousy story, but it is GREAT entertainment.

Much like Halo has a lousy story, but it has great gameplay.

Story does not necessarily equal entertainment.
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November 18, 2004
On another note of randomness, does anyone ever feel like we are meaninglessly ranting to nothing. I mean couldent we do something better with ourselves. I personally dont know why i want to try and change others opinions. Is it some kind of instict that makes us want to squabble back and forth, knowing each party has their own beliefs and will doubtly change them just cuz an idiot like myself claims otherwise? Heh any enlightend care to explain this to me :D?
Anonymous
November 18, 2004
Actually the Matrix is more based on the Hindu faith. Its almost identical.

As for robocop and Alien, they werent exactly the most successful movies. I guess alien was for a scifi. They are a little past my memory but their success was limited and I dont remember either of the characters being seen as a representation of the character arc. More so with robocop.
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November 18, 2004
says who?You?

I can see agamemnar's point. U think the arc has to be put into every story. There is no rule to storytelling. You can like it or hate it er not

*shrug(
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November 18, 2004
Lol "potholes" (he meant PLOTHOLES) "Yer all nerds". Coming from a person who had just ranted on a forum.
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November 18, 2004
>I think halflife is art cuz its Theme is
>actually trying to find out the Theme

That is not a theme. You cannot say a theme is "trying to find out the theme." That means it has no theme.

A theme is a universal quality that USUALLY can be summed up in one word: love, hope, compassion, virtue, sacrifice, reality, redemption, forgiveness, etc.

For example, Star Wars is about redemption (it has many other sub-theme, tho)

The Lord of the Rings is about hope.

Titanic is about love and sacrifice.

Etc., etc.
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November 18, 2004
Im sure Halflife has a theme, it has enough plot to be able to figure one out. Its just not a known theme. If it has a story then it has to have a theme is how it should go. Maybe it can be this "Puppetry" Since all in all your being moved in a direction by some unknown strings (no not the actual player) but maybe something greater then even the G-Man.
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November 18, 2004
Buddy speak for yerself. I came in here cuz I put "halo vs half-life 2" in google cuz alot of my friends are talking about how cool they are.

Thanks fer coming out of the closet tho. I dont swing that way.

And sorry for leaving out the "l" in plotholes. Omg +1 for u. grats.
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November 18, 2004
Ok anyone who likes argueing meaninglessly wasting your sleep raise your hand o/
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November 18, 2004
Heh maybe try " Alot of my friends are talking about how cool halo and halflife 2 are"
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November 18, 2004
Someone is talking to themself.
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November 18, 2004
Do it all the time, but now someone is :D
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November 18, 2004
Books Half-Life has published: 0
Books Halo has published: 3

Which one has a story now?
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November 18, 2004
Publishing a book for halflife will just be spoilage, the story is barely starting
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November 18, 2004
Sounds to me like an excuse...

Halo has enough plot and story. Whoever said otherwise needs to drink bleach irl.
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November 18, 2004
and all i have to say to that is dont do drugs
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Urban Townie "Now, I've read Joseph Campbell's Hero of A Thousand Faces and Robert Mckee's Story, which explain what is a good story and what is not."

So youre saying that Master Chief is a bad character, but Gordon isn't? All I have to say is: wow. One of the biggest gripes I've noticed by Half-Life fans is the fact that they didn't give Gordon's character enough depth. And that basically he never says even 1 word in the game. So hes like link from the zelda games. And youre going to argue that Halo's characters dont have enough depth?
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"""So youre saying that Master Chief is a bad character, but Gordon isn't? All I have to say is: wow. One of the biggest gripes I've noticed by Half-Life fans is the fact that they didn't give Gordon's character enough depth. And that basically he never says even 1 word in the game. So hes like link from the zelda games. And youre going to argue that Halo's characters dont have enough depth? """

YOU FOOL YOU ARE GORDON!! YOU TALK YOU JUST DON'T KNOW IT!

lol worst excuse ever. Gordon says nothing, period. Masterchief > Gordon.
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November 19, 2004
As for buying an XBox just to play halo 2.
Bit like buying an aeroplane to fly to your holidays. What you gonna do with it after the flight finishes?
There are other games for it and it is the best console on the market, after all it is based on PC hardware. But it will never be able to compete with the PC as when it (the XBOX) was released it was already based on old PC architecture (PIII)
Anonymous
November 19, 2004
Also the guy who had the 2ghz processor in 2000
where did he get it from? the fastest chip available was the Intel PIII 1.1ghz
No 2 ghz chip til 2002
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November 19, 2004
Okay november 28th 2001 (almost 2002)
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November 19, 2004
Metriod Prime? That game blows. At least the first one for gamecube did. I tried playing that for like an hour, and just turned it off. Slowest, most boring game. The graphics were pretty good, I wouldn't say top notch. You must be joking to say that Prime for GC was better than Halo 1.
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November 19, 2004
Halo2 is rubbish.
I waited so long for it - Bought it at 9.02 from Game... Played it to the end in 12 hours on hard level .. its pants the same as Halo1. I have been waiting for this day for years, only to be so so disappointed...I have just purchased Halflife 2 and a brand new ATI Geforce XT8000 Ultra Pro, cost me just shy of a £400 and I will post comment after i have finihsed it. I'll be posting in 12 hours again and give you my comments.
Anonymous
November 19, 2004
whos the comic book guy from simpsons. Why are you calling people him.

I have a goatsee beard like his but I am slighty less weighty

Comics Rule ! anyhow..
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November 19, 2004
"ATI Geforce XT8000 Ultra Pro"

Cool did u bring it home in your Chevrolet Modena 911GT Vanquish?+
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November 19, 2004
If you read all the posts. Its lie 70% on this site are for Half Life.
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November 19, 2004
Just beat HL2, and im playing it again it was so good. Tried Halo2, and fell asleep. Sorry fellas.
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November 19, 2004
Yea, while you were off playing halo 2, i was in bed. I tried halo once, i think someone owes me 3 hours of my life back. pay up microsoft.
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November 20, 2004
of course hl2 better then halo 2,played em both,beat em both, enjoyed hl2 much more
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November 20, 2004
HL2 does not need that great of a computer. it will only not work for someone who has a 3/4 year old computer.
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November 20, 2004
HL2 is in a much greater league than H2 not because they are pc/xbox, but because H2 still uses scripts for their physics, which is pretty sad if they thought they were gonna compete with HL2 or DOOM 3.
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So you're telling me you beat halo 2, on legendary, in 1 weekend. You must have been playing for quite some time. There is nothing easy about halo's legendary difficulty. I used to play halo 1 all the time, usually on legendary- but if I ever played a level on a medium or less range, and then went back to legendary I would get rocked. I havne't even tried playing Halo 2 on legendary, I find that its pretty challenging even on normal mode- given you don't drive a tank through level. TO tell the truth, I'm not finished with the campaign in H2 yet, I've just been so addicted to it's fun multiplayer. Aside from that, Halo's enemies attack in groups because it's a game about a war between species, what war game have you played where you weren't fighting around a large group of people (tides of war, etc.) Master Chief is supposed to be the person the story revolves around, they're not gonna put him in the position of a janiter cleaning toilets. He is where the action is.

On an interesting note, bungie already released an update less than a week from H2's release with a new multiplayer map- and they're also taking requests on new gametypes. So what has valve done for CS: source? bahah..
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November 20, 2004
Go ahead, give Halo the story...for now. You'll regret it when Half-Life picks up. Its just beginning...
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November 20, 2004
The last time I checked, valve didn't create mods, so why are you acting like it? Its not something that they did for hte game. Its something that comes with almost every FPS for PC. So why act like its something great that THEY did?
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November 20, 2004
No, I knew from the get go that no one here would agree with me. Like earlier people have posted, this is a half-life infestation. I'm just trying to give halo its rightful defense. Xbox live > CS source
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November 20, 2004
You don't get it. I'm giving Half-Life the credit where it deserves it, and that is in the GRAPHICS and ENGINE department. That is not in the story mode, gameplay or AI.
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These guys saying I'm giving Halo too much credit just havn'et read all of my posts. I give HL2 tons of credit.
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November 20, 2004
I dont think you guys give Halo's campaign enough credit. I think its amazing what they can put together with such "small resources". The game is amazing. Now, for HL2's campaign, I'm sure it is pretty awesome- its on a medium of endless boundaries.
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November 20, 2004
^^^ I'd respect that post all the way, except you said "funner" like 4 times in it...
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November 20, 2004
Halo 2 all the way.
I've heard all this news about halo 2 yet no one ever talks about halflife 2.
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November 20, 2004
ive never played either of the games but by the looks of it halo 2 looks much better
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November 20, 2004
by the looks? guys, use your eyes. Half-Life 2 was going to, more than anything else, revolutionize the gaming industry with graphics and gameplay, not to mention its new physics system. Halo 2 looks good, but try them both then decide. Again, to each his own.
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when i heard about doom 3 and half life 2, i was rootin for doom 3 cause that was one of my favorite games. but when i saw the half life 2 clips, half life 2 had to be my pick. and what about halo 2? it probably got those little care bears in them like part 1 did.
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November 21, 2004
I agree with that last statement.

As Al_hurtcha said... "The Xbox would have slipped off the radar if not for Halo, and Microsoft is just trying to keep it afloat with the release of Halo 2. I agree that it should not be compared to Half Life 2, because Half Life 2 was developed to break through benchmarks in graphics, and physics, while Halo 2 was developed to keep an unsuccessful game system from sliding out of existance. "
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November 21, 2004
Why do some of you such get angry tones about this stuff?...Who cares if someone likes console games more than PC games...I have a PC,and a PS2...I enjoy the PS2 games more than the PC games....thats just my preference though.
Why should I spend thousands of dollars on a Gaming PC when I can spend 150 dollars on a console and still have fun playing games that DO look really cool?...No matter what anyone here says ..the Xbox does have great looking games and Halo,1 and 2, look great.
don't take it so personally
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November 21, 2004
I meant to write "get such"...not "such get"
I must be stupid from all the console gaming
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November 21, 2004
shur ya do
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November 21, 2004
ya its the greatest thing ever, ill be playing it till halo3 comes out.
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November 21, 2004
u all wish u had this omlet!
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November 21, 2004
so how was half-life2? i know ill get a bias and semi racsist anmswer from a "PC fanboi" but im asking anyways.
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November 21, 2004
... too late.
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November 21, 2004
that too late was a response to TORs last remark.
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November 21, 2004
It was awesome I couldent stop playing it all day today
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November 21, 2004
Oh and by the way i am a better omlet maker than u.
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November 21, 2004
HL2 copied everything off of halo2
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November 21, 2004
No they dident:(
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November 21, 2004
just retarted
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November 21, 2004
in other words hes a soldier that is a combine
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November 21, 2004
i think im going to play some halo 2 right now, and i might just roll a fat blizzie while im at it. (JK about the blizzie part, or am i?)
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yeah hes right coffin feeded, even though i spent $1,800 dollars on my computer, i just dident get it because i wanted to get half life 2, a computer is a better investment for other stuff as well, you can probably buy a 800 dollar computer that will run hl2, maybe
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November 21, 2004
well back to the main issue anyway, yes if you have the money u should defintly buy the graphics card it will be worth it.
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November 21, 2004
Some food for thought:

Half-Life 2
CPU: 1.2 GHz Processor
RAM: 256MB RAM
Video: DirectX 7 level graphics card

Painkiller
CPU: 1.5 GHz Pentium III or AMD Athlon processor
RAM: 384 MB
Video: 64 MB DirectX 8.1 card with hardware Transform & Lighting support (NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS or better)

As you can see Painkiller actually has higher minimum requirements than HL2. HL2 is far from the graphically taxing game you Halo fanboys believe it to be. HL2 is beautiful because of it's details and it's physics engine. It has good graphics but it is nowhere near that of Doom 3 and even maybe Far Cry. Half-life 2 is great because fo it's artists not it's graphics.
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November 21, 2004
Thats interisting, but just imagine if it came out when it was suppose to be sept. 2003. with those requirments i wouldent be able to play the game.
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November 21, 2004
It still has good graphics, none the less. Have you seen the water effects? Simply briliant. And about the story, guys come on, i said this earlier. One of the reasons a lot of people dont like endings like the one in Half-life 2 is because there is not really a "set meaning". Its open for interpretation. You could think that there is some organization the the blue man works for... he could be an alien himself. Theres many things. Ok, im done for now.
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November 21, 2004
I have to agree with all the Half-Life fans out there. Halo 2 is nothing compared to HL2. Sure it took 6 years for the sequal to finally come out, but it was worth the wait. I may be wrong but many of these Halo fans never experienced the best ever, and the best of the year, by over 40 publication, the original Half-Life. I think if they took the time to play the original and a few of the mods associated with Half-Life they would have a whole different outlook about HL2.
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November 21, 2004
Hi there,

Well this is my review.

1. Halo 2 is really rocks... i love everything about it...

2. Half Life 2, a game that i have been waiting for a while. The game is indeed nice but it crashed my PC a few times due to lack of memory. The game is just normal, not that scary as doom 3. So i get bored easily. The graphics are amazing... but again, the storyline is okay... but some of the game elements are quite creative.. like the teleport thing

3. But xbox does not have that many games as PC or PS2.. (no rpg games like Final Fantasy)so you have to consider.. after all Xbox2 is releasing probably next year 2005.

Cheers.
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November 21, 2004
I am...a Flashpoint fan that is. Not so much into it anymore though, waiting for OF2.
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November 22, 2004
what makes me laugh is most people who are claiming half life 2 is the best game ever haven't even played it yet. So if you have played it, do you really think riding around on the POS air bike thingy they give you is a great time? or a means to end? To those of you that think it is ground breaking, I can list off at least 10 games that beat half life 2 in story and playabilty and are just plain more fun. to Chris, why would facial animations make you want to replay the game?
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November 22, 2004
And besides, who really cares, everyone is entitled to their opinion. so lets all just chill
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November 22, 2004
Spidthefish, you say that CS is 6 years old, and that they should of made something new. What about Halo 2? It's the exact same ****ing thing!
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November 22, 2004
Ok, so i read the first 40posts and gave up on reading the rest, but...

Time will tell. I think people have to relax, take a deep breath and have a go at both Halo 2 and HL2. They are both Exelent titles for their platform and fans of both sides have done nothing but atempt to pumel each other into submission. Only creating more sentiment against each other.

Hears a thought, if you actualy think you know your stuff, then you would know you cannt make a judgement without trying the options first. So, find a mate that has the copy of the game you feel is inferior and have a play. I think you will realise the pros and cons of each game .

I will finish of by saying the following, now that i have goten my politicaly correct ramble out of the way, there are to important notes to make.

1. People backing xBox never give clear facts about why they feel Halo2 is superior, bogans.

2. What game will be edged into the memory of gamers around the world in 10 years, 20 years time? Definately not Halo2.... point made..

Happy owning, what ever you preference is

A Banana
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November 22, 2004
yer yer yer yer we all know hl2 smells and HALO2 rulz HALO2 rulz HALO2 rulz HALO2 rulz
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November 22, 2004
dID SOME ONE SAY THAT HALO 2 GOT A HIGHER OVER ALL SCORE THAN HALF LIFE 2, no I dont think so go to gamerankings.com you will see the over all average of both games,and Halo 2 is not the winner
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November 22, 2004
... :( i like gordon and master chief the same :( i agree with alan, lets just get alone! both games are good!
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November 22, 2004
oh and yeah if you say that halo 2 took 3 years to make and thats what happened at the end, well it took me 14 hours to beat hl2 on normal and the ending was even more rediculous because it took 6 years to make so dont even play that card
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
so am i RangerStew so am i here its coming out in 06
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November 22, 2004
Also Weasel's mentioning of the years to story ratio is ridiculous. It only proves he knows little of the development cycle of console and video games. Valve wrote and entirely new engine [source] for HL2. This engine development alone took 2 of those 6 years. Halo 2 used the same engine as Halo 1. Also you need to take into consideration the fact that developing for a PC is much more difficult than for a console. Whena console developer makes a game they know that the system specs are always going to be the same and everyone will be in conformity. For a PC developer they have to create the game to be able to run on thosands of different combinations of hardware and software. The combinations are only limited by the minimum req's a PC game has. Considering HL2 can be played on huge range of systems because of it relatively low min reqs it takes all that much longer to develop it.
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November 22, 2004
Ph03niX_sk][e i agree with you!!!!
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
"You guys don't give Xbox enough credit"
bullsh!t
you people r the one who dont give valve enough credit, they've worked it for many years to create the game from scratch!
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November 22, 2004
You have a point. But I have played both games (not passed) I played halo 2 at a friends house and I own half life 2 and I liked half life 2 better (but I am one sided).
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
hey RangerStew if you like operation flashpoint you should get the Y2K3 its good get it from ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/bratty/PB/site/addons.html but it need OFP resistance and the newest version 1.6 or 6.1 I forget
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
does any of you guys live in australia i know Ph03niX_sk][e does
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
oh and one more thing... (from my experiences)
Half-Life 2 > Halo 2
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
ok i got nothen against that its you opinion

(If there is spelling or gramma errors I mean no offence)
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
oooo! i just found a error
ok i got nothen against that its your opinion

again sorry for that
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November 22, 2004
more of computer over console guy
Anonymous
November 22, 2004
cool if ya after games free of charge you sould get a progrmane called ares very good prog better that kazza
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November 23, 2004
Ok... lets say an 800 dollar pc.. thats still.. what, 5 or 6 xboxes? Yes, everyone knows that PCs rock. And I wouldn't just buy a PC to play games on. I don't really play games on the comp, thats why I don't have a good one now. I basically use it to check stuff out online, email, other misc stuff. I have better things to do in life than just sit on HL2 all day. I have work, a fiance, and other stuff to do besides 24 hours of free time.
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November 23, 2004
Tor: "yeah hes right coffin feeded, even though i spent $1,800 dollars on my computer, i just dident get it because i wanted to get half life 2, a computer is a better investment for other stuff as well, you can probably buy a 800 dollar computer that will run hl2, maybe"

Ok... lets say an 800 dollar pc [will run HL2].. thats still.. what, 5 or 6 xboxes? Yes, everyone knows that PCs rock. And I wouldn't just buy a PC to play games on. I don't really play games on the comp, thats why I don't have a good one now. I basically use it to check stuff out online, email, other misc stuff. I have better things to do in life than just sit on HL2 all day. I have work, a fiance, and other stuff to do besides 24 hours of free time.

And to the kid who said I could run HL2 with the comp I used to play painkiller. Maybe.. I'm not sure. But when I played painkiller every time I fired a shot I would get sound lag and video lag, making it very irritating. Not enough memory I believe. Anyhow, I would never try and run HL2 on that system- I wuldn't want to play an anticipated game in video/sound lag. Oh, BTW- that comp has a 120MB ATI graphics card in it. Still didn't even run painkiller smoothly enough.
Anonymous
November 23, 2004
Halo was a great game for me, a lot shorter than I expected but still cool, I haven't played no.2 and won't need to since HL2 is just way better, down to earth with an enticing plot carried on from the first version which was a benchmark for FPS games.

I admit the multiplayer for halo 1 and most probably halo 2 are great but half-life 2 has much more to offer, crisp and crystal clear graphics an superb lighting and water reflections plus the fact that half-life 2 is a pc game adds to the fact that modifications and map makers can be used for multiplayer or singleplayer.

Another thing, HL1 won over 50 game awards, HL2 has just come out and already magazines have said "Half-Life 2 IS THE BEST FIRST PERSON SHOOTER EVER" PCzone

"If Half-Life 2 achieves one single thing, it's to put into sharp focus how far gaming has come, and more specifically how far behind some of its competitors in the FPS genre really are. Some doubted that the Source engine could match the technical brilliance elsewhere, but it has not only surpassed anyone else's achievements, it has done so without forcing people to invest in ludicrously expensive hardware. Reports persist from amazed gamers with mid-range set ups that have been blown away by how well the game runs on their systems. That Half Life 2 looks more convincing, more understated, more realistic, more interactive and definitely more stylish than its peers yet manages it with far lower overheads is not only an impressive feat, but commercially a masterstroke."

"The nominees for The 2004 SpikeTV Video Game Awards have been announced and Half-Life 2 has been nominated in these 5 categories:

Game of the Year
Best First Person Action Game
Best PC Game
Best Graphics
Best New Technology

The 2nd Annual Awards Take Place LIVE Tuesday, December 14th in Los Angeles hosted by Snoop Dogg and featured musical Performances Include SUM 41, Ludacris and first ever live performances By Snoop Dogg and The Doors."

No-more needs to be said
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November 23, 2004
I beat Half-Life 2, and have play Halo 2, Half-Life 2 blows Halo 2 out of the water in every aspect. My system isn't that grand, but still the Valve members were genius when they created this game for the average computer, and not for supercomputers only. The storyline, graphics, interactivity, gameplay, all of it is pure genius. Characters seem almost human, and enemies will scare you silly. Great game, much better than Halo 2, eventhough Halo 2's multiplayer is very entertaining.
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November 23, 2004
^^^
i meant that halo 2 has much more replay value
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November 23, 2004
I say let each one rule their own worlds. Halo 2 can be king of the consoles, and Half-Life 2 will reign in the PC world. Happy? But you know who rules all of the fps gamer world? ASIAN PLAYERS WOOOOOOOT!!! especially cute korean girls.
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November 23, 2004
thank you , jim, for driving my point home...
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November 23, 2004
now if i've got that out of me i'm gonna go play "follow freeman" happy hating guys
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November 23, 2004
Oh and by the way i was jk about me being the best omlet maker TOR is way better than me.
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November 23, 2004
http://archive.gamespy.com/grudge/2003.09/gordon-masterchief.jpg

check this out
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November 23, 2004
"Oh, and I get really fked off when I'm driving and everything stops for 30 seconds while a new section loads... actually come to think of it, it's not just when I'm driving.. its ALL THE FKING TIME..". Well, that's what I get from the look on Gordon's face anyway :)

For what it's worth, I've just finished HL2, and enjoyed it (except when loading) a lot, but it just doesn't feel 6 years better that HL.. and still won't keep me coming back like Halo 1/2.. sorry..

Oh, sorry for 2 posts on the trot..
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November 23, 2004
BTW there was a discussion about the Master Chiefs name earlier.He is a Spartan uh...117 I think was his model number.So there's the answer to your "Combine" rebutle.
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November 23, 2004
You are out of your minds if you think Halo 2 is better than Half Life 2!! HL2 is a life changing experience as far as video gaming goes whereas Halo 2 is just plain boring!
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November 24, 2004
Heh, revolutionizing ones'self isnt that great, you know. I could excersice a minute more than i usually do and revolutionize myself, rofl. But if i revolutionized the way i excercized, and everyone grew to the way i excercised, then i would revolutionize excercizing. Think before you talk Ghost.
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November 24, 2004
and if half-life 2 "changed your life" wow thats pretty sad
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November 24, 2004
Hahaha, you gotta give it to the man, hes right.
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November 24, 2004
I don't think Either game is really revolutionary, if I had to say either one was revolutionary though, I'd have to say Halo 2 is, because it brought so much to an outdated system.

Oh yea, and for the record, sports games on PC aren't as cool as on console
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November 25, 2004
Coffinfeeder said: "my "average" PC can barely compete with the graphics of some xbox games"

If your system is unable to compete with the Xbox it is obviously outdated.

An average gaming PC has a 2.0 Ghz PIV CPU, 512MB memory, And something comparable to a Radeon or Geforce videocard.

The Xbox has a 733Mhz PIII CPU, 64Mb memory and a videocard comparable to a GeForce4 Ti 4400.

Also, something I keep wondering. How do you play Halo 2? With a gamepad or something???? I tried that once and found that it is almost impossible to aim quickly with those thumbsticks. That alone makes the Xbox useless to me as a FPS gaming platform.
Anonymous
November 25, 2004
Bart: "Coffinfeeder said: "my "average" PC can barely compete with the graphics of some xbox games"

If your system is unable to compete with the Xbox it is obviously outdated.

An average gaming PC has a 2.0 Ghz PIV CPU, 512MB memory, And something comparable to a Radeon or Geforce videocard."

Yes, my PC is outdated. But 2.0 GHZ, 512MB mem, and Geforce Vid card would be the average specs of a PC gamer's comp. That is no where near the average for the common PC user.

I also thought aiming with the gamepad was very difficult, because I played q3 for a good 4-5 years on the PC. The thing with the xbox controller is you can set the sensitivity, just like a mouse sensitivity. So it's quite easy to get used to. I still don't prefer it over a mouse and keyboard... but its not hard to master enough to be competitive on xbox live.
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November 25, 2004
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November 25, 2004
Coffinfeeder, I got my averages from 1.2 million people that took the Steam survey. You can see the results for yourself here:

http://steampowered.com/status/survey.html
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November 25, 2004
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November 25, 2004
My mother and grandmother took that survey fool, got a problem;) oh and by the way, even though valve doesnt make mods its still their engine, and if you get someone experienced enough to make a mod it will most likely be pretty close even if valve dide'nt made it.
Anonymous
November 25, 2004
I mean "did'nt".
Anonymous
November 25, 2004
Coffinfeeder, I was talking about gaming PC's, not your mothers kitchen PC.
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November 25, 2004
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November 25, 2004
I don't see why you guys are complaining (about both games) that "They weren't really a new game from the first one" ...Well, duh! it is supposed to be the sequel to the first game, not a whole new game...
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November 25, 2004
Sensible person: Why don't you get a real life and start playing some Half Life 2?
Anonymous
November 25, 2004
Open Your Eyez and See!
Anonymous
November 25, 2004
hey bart why don't you....EAT MY SHORTS
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Anonymous
November 25, 2004
Well... Because you only wear pantyhoses...
Anonymous
November 26, 2004
get real life and play a different video game...that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard...

I've agreed with most of the things CoffinFeeder has said
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November 26, 2004
so, its better than your mom.
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November 26, 2004
Grr can you please remove the second one
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November 28, 2004
I agree with Cofinfeeder. All the Half Life 2 fans are going to have a PC but the Halo 2 fans are going to be playing on there XBOX
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
I forgot to mention how does any video game character stack up to Master Chief? Halo 2 kills Half Life 2!
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November 28, 2004
-----ps. XIII was awesome fun, but the AI was horrid :P

=====I found the AI pretty good in that game. Not to be realitic acting to the environment, but they dont actually attack or anything till they actually SEE you. Ive seen games where as soon as u come within the are, they just KNOW ur there...Either way, Lots of fun
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Nighthawk
-----ps. XIII was awesome fun, but the AI was horrid :P

Yea, I loved the style of that game. I played it for PS2 actually, I bet the PC and xbox versions were much better. I wanted to check it out online- I don't think many people play it though. It was different, I had many a fun hours on that game.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Are there any PS2 or Nintendo fans on this site
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
I think Sensible person and Coffinfeeder are the same person! Any body aggre?
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
-----I wanted to check it out online- I don't think many people play it though.

Yeh, the game IS fun multi, played some lan with bro and friends b4, but almost NOBODY at all plays online (At least PC version) Although kinda limited, but still fun. Dont know why there arent many who play online...Doesnt even need cd-key does it? if not it doesnt check for it. Neway point being...XIII = f*cking good game
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November 28, 2004
I like Half Life 2 ugh. dugh I I I donnnn't kkknow wwwhhat an RPG is. Dugh
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Hold your temper Sensible Person and go play your favorite game Barbie Horse Adventure.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Sensible Person you called me a bad speller you spelt dumb wrong
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
"Sensible Person you called me a bad speller you spelt dumb wrong"

You have very bad grammer. You forgot to put in a period, and "Sensible Person" should be seperated by a comma.

vvvvv CORRECT vvvvv

Sensible Person, you called me a bad speller you spelt dumb wrong.

I just had to make something of your sentence.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
What are you Nighthawk my English teacher?
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
I think this webpage isn't about Half Life 2 and Halo 2 anymore. It seems more like my 8th period class.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
You have revealed my secret, now you must die!
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Hah, you are so funny.
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November 28, 2004
Also know one has answered the question is Coffinfeeder and Sensible Person the same guy/lady.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Sorry I put a period instead of a question mark I'm gonna hear from Nighthawk.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
I think Bungee should've made a PC Version of HALO2 the same time the XBOX version came out. Then and only then will it be able to show it's true outstanding graphics and gameplay. I know a lot of people will agree with me on this. It'll get a little expensive and tedious in keeping up with the latest and greatest with PC Gaming Technology. Compared to Console Gaming where all you have to do is slide in the Disc and you're gaming. But guys, get or build a decent PC Gaming rig, play some of the latest DX9 designed games out there(HalfLife2, DOOM3, FARCRY, HaloPC, CallOFduty, etc.). And wallah, you'll know why HL2 shines better than XBOX's top playah (HALO2). My thoughts!!!
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Solid Snake: "Also know* one has answered the question is Coffinfeeder and Sensible Person the same guy/lady."

Solid, youre an idiot if you think that.

* = no :P
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Not only did you put the wrong punctuation, but you also used know, instead of no. Also, just so you know, i wouldn't have said a thing if you hadn't said anything about me correctiong you.
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November 28, 2004
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November 28, 2004
Night, this kid is too young to know proper grammar. Lets just leave him alone and he can think whatever he wants of the matter :P

ps. Any of you guys playing H2 multiplayer want to join my friend list? Maybe we can get together and have some fun, while enjoying one of the coolest features of H2's multiplayer- fun and easy communication with cool teamtalk. No laggy, unorganized games here >:D
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
coffinFEEDER: "You're saying both games are "outstanding", and then you say you sold your Halo 2 to some kid the next day you got it. Come on. If you really believed it was a good game why did you get rid of it the second you got HL2. That don't really sound right to me. Maybe because youre trying to overhype it (HL2). You say that you've owned an xbox for 3+ years, then you've probably anticipated the Halo 2 release. I know you wouldn't be giving it away less than 24 hours from purchase".

Dude, am not trying to elevate or hype-up HL2. I don't dislike HALO2 either. Reason I gave up HALO2 is: waiting and hoping for HALO2 PC version. Now, that would really rock!!! I just want to convey my PC experience to everyone that wants to fully experience pure graphics power. Once again HL2 and HALO2 should be awarded "FPS Game of the year" respectively in PC and Console. You just can't compare both of 'em right now. Coz u know HALO2 will get beat graphics wise due to XBOX hardware constraints.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Most of the people on this website are using bad grammer and I'm the only one being corrected on it.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Sorry, but you started it...

"Sensible Person you called me a bad speller you spelt dumb wrong"
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Plus you forgot a comma in your last comment.

Most of the people on this website are using
v - HERE
bad grammer and I'm the only one being corrected on it.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Sensible Person started it.
P.S. You forgot a period.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Sorry, that came out bad. It didn't include the spaces I put in.

vv CORRECTED vv

Most of the people on this website are using bad grammer,(HERE) and I'm the only one being corrected on it.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
I'm not talking about the one you wrote at 6:50 I'm talking about the one you wrote at 6:48.
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November 28, 2004
Could you please point out to me where i forgot a period?
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Get a life Nighthawk.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
After wrong.
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November 28, 2004
I haven't played Half Life 2 yet, but which of the two games has better gameplay HL2 or H2.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
Has anybody heared about the ending for Heroic or Legendary mode on Halo2 somewhere during the credits that it says something about Febuary 9. Don't take my word for it I'm not sure but I saw it on a website.
Anonymous
November 28, 2004
everybody tell TOR tHAT he needs to play XIII, and how cool it is.
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November 28, 2004
I agree with the guy above me.
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November 28, 2004

Here is my 2 cents worth.

Halo2 is a great game with great graphics and gameplay. The XBOX will only be good for another year or two before the graphics start getting dated like the PS1 is today.

Halflife2 will always be there for when you are ready but I for one can wait a while for graphic cards to get better and better (and cheaper) before justyfing an expensive upgrade when there are still some great XBox titles about to be released.
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November 29, 2004
When is Half Life 2 coming out for XBOX.
Anonymous
November 29, 2004
you guys don't know what you guess are saying Halo 2 own half life. Half life go and get another half life so you can compare to Halo 2.
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November 29, 2004
we made more money
Halo 2 Who made more fans
Halo 2
Who keep many college student up at night
Halo 2
Who made more friends
Halo 2
so take Half life back and get another life before appearing here
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November 29, 2004
half life 2 is better. period.
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November 29, 2004
HL2 All the way!!!!
ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 30, 2004
3 more years then Halo stomp Half life
Anonymous
November 30, 2004
darkreaper by the way im not japanese im black and second of all go back to where you come from
do you like Halo2 orHalf life 2
Anonymous
November 30, 2004
make more outdoors level for Halo 3 and then Halo will be phenomenal like bloodglutch
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November 30, 2004
and i stand at halo 2 i didnt care for the ending but it leads to the release of halo 3
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November 30, 2004
all you half life people get a life becuase you know people are playing Halo 2 online not Half life 2 so shut up and go make me a sandwich while i play Halo 2 online
Anonymous
November 30, 2004
heard that good one get alife i don't know who you are but nice one while i play Halo 2 online go make me refill my beer and go get me some hotchicks you half life people
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December 01, 2004
I think my IQ went down 10 point from reading these posts. But on the upside they were quite entertaining.
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
Points..i meant..see what i mean?
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
That Terrell character must be some little whiteboy who listened to one too many eminem records.
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December 01, 2004
either that or ur a 12 yr old naglected child that missed out on all the edjucation elementary school has to offer because ur parents hate u.

either way u have the most horrible spelling/grammer i have ever seen in my entire life.
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December 01, 2004
Edwardo hahahahahahahhahahahahhaha
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
that dirty mexican
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
Hey Guys,

This has been great and all, but I think I'm going to close out this thread. Thanks for all your comments. I did get a new video card and I got HL2. I'm enjoying both games very much.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Brian
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
it was fun
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
yo TOR how is XIII, how far is you?
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December 01, 2004
so... what did i miss when i was gone??? looks like things got interesting.
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
as u can tell from my name.........HL2 HL2 HL2 HL2 HL2 HL2!!!!!! n e way half life 2 is so much better than halo 2 by a lot for 3 reasons

1 graphics r the best i've ever seen in a game

2 story for h2 isnt very good at all while hl2's story is pretty good

3 IT ROCKS!!!!
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
ooops i thought i used my other name =) hl2 still rules all over h2
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
people have their own opinions on what game is the best personnaly i think halo 2 blows halflife out of the f****** water. Regardless of bad ending or not
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i mean "what"
Anonymous
December 01, 2004
and i meant "MULTIPLAYER"......... oops
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you half life people probably haven't play Halo 2 yet thats why when you see it around the mall, the stores and ect. you get jealous and thats why you guys are all talking oh Half life is better. Well i tell you guys play Halo 2 online and see for yourself which is better because Half life2 isn't even posted anywhere
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December 02, 2004
Wow, I jsut read the news- HL2 does have a 'new' multiplayer. Congrats HL2ers. I'm glad valve finally delivered something other than a beefed up CS. I'll have to read more into it to see how it sounds. The only gripes I've read about are as follows:

1: Two multiplayer maps (whatt?- only 2?)

2: A lot of the host servers are severely lagged. (too bad they're not playing on xbox live, the lag-free (almost) system :D )
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December 02, 2004
No, Halo 2 is better.
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December 02, 2004
that ost was way to long and inm very stoned to read it so im not going to!!!!!!!!
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December 03, 2004
seriously man... classes.
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December 03, 2004
Holy* and Halflife2*
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December 03, 2004
The special bus yey!
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December 04, 2004
I am sorry if I steered anything -- no reason to get all emotional--just kidding--entertaining my inferior self..
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December 04, 2004
andrew....your an idiot
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December 04, 2004
For all of you H2 fans out there, my gamertag is kun0. Lets all have fun on xbox live- whilst the HL2 kiddies play CS: source and HL2 online with 2 maps :D Fun for everyone!
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December 04, 2004
I think analyze is google
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December 04, 2004
yea michael swanson must sound familiar to u google hes in the new michael jackson did he give a little something to u
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December 05, 2004
Someone please remove google's threads, he has because utterly rediculous. There is no rhyme or reason for any of his posts anymore.
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December 06, 2004
that wasnt me
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December 07, 2004
halo2 is the best! I would give it a 10 out of 10!!!!!!!!! half life would be -10 out of 10!!!

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