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Standards? Conventions? Design Patterns? Whatever Works!

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I see Rick Jelliffe finds the previous post amusing.  Glad to
entertain, but please note my comment.
I definitely agree that "The whole point of a standard is to prevent
one party from having control".  That's what the imprimatur of a
standards organization offers.  The question I was posing  is
how much work refining and field-testing a spec should done before
submitting it to the standards organization.  The dominant
paradigm has been to do fairly little and leave most of the work to the
committee.  The alternative is submit fairly mature specs for
standardization. This doesn't have to be done by some unholy alliance
of the major companies; the W3C itself now has a mechanism to form
"XGs" (X signifying something like "experimental" I guess) that can
develop specs that are not on the Recommendation track, that can be
picked up by a regular WG if they prove themselves.  But when the
standard ultimately  comes  out, the organization, not the originator(s),
own it in any case, whether it was developed by a WG, XG, or industry
cabal. (My attempted comment
on his blog hasn't shown up for whatever reason). 

Another interesting post on this general topic is Kurt Cagle's XML and the Long Tail. 
"if, as I suspect, standards adoption tends to occur first within the
tail, the growing adoption of that standard creates pressure on those
closer to the head to conform to the standard as well, which in turn
makes the momentum stronger even closer to the head. Eventually, this
forces the market leader into a position where they either adopt the
standards or risk losing their market dominance in the face of
overwhelming opposition from both competitors and clients."  Kurt
doesn't give specific examples, but let's think of some. 
Presumably the model for this would be HTML, which definitely did
emerge out of the long tail and displace the proprietary technologies
of market leaders (e.g. MS's ill-fated Blackbird format).  RSS
also comes to mind.  But most would argue that HTML and RSS moved
out of the long tail not because they were Open Standards but because
they were (originally) simple sloppy
formats that absolutely nailed the 80/20 point of functionality at a
vastly lower price/complexity than the stuff at the "head."  More
recent examples of technologies emerging from the long tail and getting
somewhat grudging support from the head might include REST/POX and
AJAX/JSON.  In these cases, it's again a matter of fundamental
standards (HTTP,XML, ECMAScript/Javasript having been universally
implemented by the head) and sufficing where the head-favored
alternatives added little value (or had not yet been widely deployed).

What drives these things is not standardization in the sense of
their being a formal, approved spec that developers scrupulously adhere
to.  Valid HTML is not particularly common on the Web, many
so-called "REST" apps violate the HTTP spec in fairly dangerous ways,
RSS is actually a constellation of informal conventions rather than a
standard (the real-world success of the Atom 1.0 IETF standard is yet
to be determined), and AJAX/JSON is more of a design pattern than
anything resembling a standard. What does drive this is evolution -- a
diverse pool of ideas, lots of experimentation / recombination,
real-world success to the most practical ideas, and a weeding out of
the bad ones.  At some point things stabilize to the point that
certain ideas get enshrined as "standards" and the evolutionary process
slows down for awhile, until the equilibrium gets punctuated by new
challenges and ideas.  That's very consistent with the
"standardize the stuff that has been field-tested, don't standardize it
direct from the lab" approach I was advocating yesterday.

The larger context of many of these discussions seems to be the controversy surrounding
the OASIS OpenDocument format and the Massachusetts CIO's effort to
mandate it in that state's agencies.  As someone who hopes that MS
Office's profitability continues to fund our little non-profit center
in the bowls of the borg, I'm a bit biased, but c'mon folks:  This
isn't about an Open Standard getting traction in the long tail and
forcing the "head" to reluctantly do the Right Thing, this is about
using government power to counter market realities. That seldom works
in the IT industry, as the fact that Ada is
a niche programming language today should attest :-) OASIS ODF will
succeed if it meets an un-met need at a significantly lower real cost
than the alternatives, the way HTML, RSS, etc. have
succeeded.  Historically, it has been more or less irrelevant
whether something hitting that sweet spot has been an Open Standard, bunch
of conventions shared by a developer community, or a de facto standard
derived from a proprietary technology.

Comments

  • Anonymous
    November 03, 2005
    Not whatever works. Whatever's proper. Just because it works, does NOT make it right. Every (respectable) parent tells their kids that, they need to live it out themselves.

  • Anonymous
    November 03, 2005
    "a diverse pool of ideas, lots of experimentation / recombination, real-world success to the most practical ideas, and a weeding out of the bad ones."

    Sing it from the highest mountain. :)

    "OASIS ODF will succeed if it meets an un-met need at a significantly lower real cost than the alternatives, the way HTML, RSS, etc. have succeeded."

    Agreed. I think the nudge from the state was healthy, though - at least if what little I've read about this situation is true. If MS isn't providing the ecosystem where "a diverse pool of ideas, lots of experimentation / recombination, real-world success to the most practical ideas, and a weeding out of the bad ones" can thrive and, as some suggest, are actively imposing barriers to that ecosystem ever coming about, I think it's completely within the state's rights to "clear some brush" with the hopes that the ecosystem might evolve.

    Some believe that in order to truly get to that first situation (the healthy ecosystem), you have to level the playing field. You can't have a dominate authority calling all the shots and expect the kind of participation needed from others. Personally, I think you guys should jump in on this and see how you can contribute.

    I do agree with you that the Open Standard isn't the issue. What we should be talking about is community enabling, real openess (Freedom), and simplicity as those are the real drivers for healthy adoption and the seeds of a true ecosystem.

  • Anonymous
    November 04, 2005
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  • Anonymous
    November 10, 2005
    A consumer deciding on its own criteria for determining what to buy is the market, Mike.

    (Mike has also posted, from his perspective deep inside those the non-profit bowels, some useful and interesting comments directly to my blog, which did not show up for a couple days, not due to sinister reasons I am assured.)

  • Anonymous
    December 01, 2005
    "this is about using government power to counter market realities."

    Massachusetts role in this case is being a client, not being the government.

    "OASIS ODF will succeed if it meets an un-met need at a significantly lower real cost than the alternatives"

    That un-met need is the openness, i.e. the absence of vendor lock-in.

    So, how much does vendor lock-in cost? Depends on the client, I guess. For a government with a duty to keep documents available for a long time it may be more than for a random commercial company.

    When is vendor lock-in absent? Having it declared a Standard by a Standardization Organization is neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition.

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