Icons: It’s still orange
My last post shared some of our conceptual designs of the feed icon and expressed some of the criteria that we are using to select the right icon. Several of the comments liked icon #4 simply because it looked liked the Firefox icon, and many (like this one) suggested that we work with the Firefox team to standardize on an icon.
This seemed like a very good idea, so in November, Amar and I took a visit down to Silicon Valley to meet with John Lilly and Chris Beard from Mozilla to get their thoughts on it. We all agreed that it’s in the user’s best interest to have one common icon to represent RSS and RSS-related features in a browser. And the winner is…
I’m excited to announce that we’re adopting the icon used in Firefox. John and Chris were very enthusiastic about allowing us (and anyone in the community) to use their icon. This isn’t the first time that we’ve worked with the Mozilla team to exchange ideas and encourage consistency between browsers, and we’re sure it won’t be the last.
We’ll be using the icon in the IE7 command bar whenever a page has a feed associated with it, and we’ll also use it in other places in the browser whenever we need a visual to represent RSS and feeds. Look for more details on the look and feel of IE7 when we post the public pre-release build next year.
Thanks again to the Mozilla team for making the icon available and helping us do the right thing for all browser users. Many thanks to everyone who gave feedback on our earlier post; your comments and thoughts were very valuable!
- Jane
Update 12/15: The Outlook 12 team has announced they'll be using the same icon. Great news!
Comments
- Anonymous
December 14, 2005
I think this is very exciting to see collaboration between IE and Mozilla. Hopefully with this consistent approach, RSS will become an everyday technology just like email has become. Keep up the good work, I look forward to IE7. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
That's very cool, anything that can be done to make the UI and contextual pieces of RSS easier for everyone to understand is a great thing. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Very nice. Work together more often! - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
Nice, i have liked the increasing collaborative efforts between the browser vendors in the last few weeks, with the security colour coding. And now this. Im respecting IE more and more everyday......if you keep it up you may well take back some of that market firefox has munched at.
Good work. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
I think that this kind of collaboration is what RSS need to get more "mainstream". Hopefully with IE7, people will start to understand what RSS is all about. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
That's great to see and beneficial for everyone in the long term. That will almost set in stone the icon that represents RSS to the masses.
Well done. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Respect! (To Mozilla, for leading the way, and to IE/RSS team for doing the good thing.)
Who would have thought we would see the day? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Great news. Keep up the great work. Although I'm an avid Firefox user, I am excited to see how IE7 turns out. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
:: claps :: - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Normally I would criticize anything good Microsoft does as an underhanded, backstabbing PR move, but even I can tell this is an honest attempt to create a standard Web interface for everyone, no matter what browser they want to use. Good work! - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Kudos :) the sooner IE users get IE7 the better!
And to Mike, grow up. I am also a Linux (and Mac! and Windows!) fan, but that is just unnecessary. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
That's great! But how are you going to fit in the windows logo? ;) - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
The icon is nice, but why the focus on RSS? Are you going to support ATOM feeds too? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Yup. We support all feed formats: Atom, RSS (2.0, 1.0 and the 0.9x formats). In most cases, when we use "RSS" in this general way, we're talking about syndication technologies in general. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Seeing this brought a smile to my face.
For so long I've stayed away from web development due to browser inconsitencies. Maybe this is a sign of better things to come in the world of web development? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
This is great news! I think this will improve RSS adoption. I hope Microsoft and Mozilla will cooperate more in the future. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
Awesome decision. Seriously, in terms of principle, this is huge. Good for you guys. :) - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
I'm extremely impressed by this. Interoperability of this level (i.e. petty enough that cooperation could easily be sidestepped were that desired) is very much appreciated by all camps. Cheers guys.
- Chris - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
Great move, and a welcome change of pace from the browser wars. Of course, I have to ask: are aggregator developers free to use this same icon in their products? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Good choice! Nice to see you guys work together with the Mozilla folks to bring some cohesiveness to browsing. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Good to see, although it shouldn't have to take something as big as Firefox's popularity to impliment RSS support in IE.
I personally like your RSS icon better than the one in Firefox's default theme. Is the icon you have in this post free for anyone to use, or owned by MS and licensed under the EULA? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Good news, maybe it will actually get Joe Average User interested in using feeds. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
"I personally like your RSS icon better than the one in Firefox's default theme."
Er, it is the same icon used in Firefox 1.5 (go to a page with an RSS feed and you should see the icon appear in the address bar as the button to create a "Live Bookmark"). The one above is a higher resolution though.
In any event, definitely glad Microsoft is going for consistancy between browsers! =) - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
This is excellent to see! Not only the collaboration but the fact that RSS and XML orange icons aren't used is also a plus.
The orange XML icon was especially inappropriate. To me, it had no connection with RSS, other than it was something that Dave Winer invented. The chosen icon is more generic, does not mention RSS or XML, and just represents feeds, whether they be RSS, Atom or whatever. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
It was the right thing to do, Well done! - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
It's too bad that from a User's point of view the icon is devoid of meaning. I'm glad that MS decided to work with Mozilla on this one, however the icon is absolutely meanless.
It's another hieroglyphic for the user to decode. Shame on both camps for employing terrible user interface designers.
The only icon that has it right is safari's its' a beautiful tiny button (nearly the same size as that one) but says "RSS" and is easily understandable by everyone. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
If you guys are so excited about an orange logo then I'm sure you'll be excited if IE ever gets HTML/CSS correct which they haven't since 1998! - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
I'm so glad to see that Microsoft is finally getting smarter. See, all you have to do now is copy the rest of Firefox.
Geez, can't come up with anything yourselves anymore, can you? Apparently, MS hasn't got the memo that Google + Firefox is the way of the future. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
While I understand the position of those people who are bashing the waste of time for dealing with an icon, I think it's a step forward.
I'll admit I'm a Linux user myself and am a supporter of FireFox, but the fact that Microsoft is cooperating with Mozilla is a good thing. I'm a web developer and nothing irritates me more than JavaScript and working with IE/FF differences. I'm happy to see that the key browser builders are working together to make things more consistent throughout all of the browsers.
Nicely done guys, you're up a few points in my books. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Nice! - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Is command bar another name for address bar? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
This is all fine and good.... but will IE7 Support PNG's properly? Will it render CSS better?
That is what is important for semless browsing experience.... not some silly rss buttion. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Hey, while you're at it, why don't you adobt Mozilla's rendering engine, too -- that'll really be "in the user’s best interest," and "encourage consistency between browsers!"
Just trying to help you "do the right thing for all browser users." - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
That is great! Nice one. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Hmm, cool.
Why don't you adopt Firefox mode of using about:config for some advanced configurations?
I won't mind that please.. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Yay for consistency! - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Works for me. Does this mean yer also gonna drop the ill advised idea of trying to create a new name too?
The suggestion for about:config... Its an interesting idea, and certainly easier than hacking the registry... If they don't write it, anyone else who wanted to create their own custom protocol handler could. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
> when we use "RSS" in this general way, we're
> talking about syndication technologies in
> general.
Sorry, but RSS is a file format. Using your reasoning you should call IE an "HTML browser" and say "when we use 'HTML' in this general way, we're talking about web technologies in general." No wonder normal users are confused.
The general term for "syndication technologies" is "feeds". There are RSS feeds and Atom feeds. You can't use "RSS" to mean all kinds of feed any more than you can use "tuba" to mean all kinds of musical instrument.
This whole "let's pretend all feeds are RSS" nonsense sounds suspiciously like kowtowing to <a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/12/09.html#googleSucksThereISaidIt">a particular crackpot's ramblings</a>. If you're going to do that you might as well follow <a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/10/08.html#When:4:23:06PM">his suggestion to standardize on a button that says "XML"</a>. I'm sure everyone's grandmother will be able to figure that one out. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Awsome! :) - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
Congratulations!
That`s the way to go. Looking forward to IE7. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
I hope you allow Mozilla to use your icons and other resources if they so wish in the future. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
one step forward. but what about 'new' web standards. e.g. what about standard svg support? - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
I think it is a great idea to have this shared recognizable icon.
And to be honest: Who really cares what format it is as long as it is readable by my reader and does the things I want?
Maybe some geeks, but to every one else this is just "little orange thing = feed for me". - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
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December 14, 2005
OMG! Microsoft is stealing the ideas of the open source company. And I swear you that they will give Mozilla an a**-kick after they stole the idea. SHAME ON YOU M$! Create you own ideas. - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
seineew era sremmarggorp tfosorciM - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
cute - Anonymous
December 14, 2005
good to see microsoft brings a BIT of redemption. but i'll stick with my kubuntu (kubuntu.org) - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
LoL - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Respect!
(for the cooperation with the mozilla group) - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
This is very good news. It's nice to see that competitors can work together for the common good. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Embrace and extend anyone? - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
let this be one of the steps to create a standardisation of the web browsing experience. My proposal for the next step: SVG (with all the experience of the SVGextension XAML - I know it's a bit more than SVG - this one should be easy for you guys ;-) ). Ups, i started dreaming... guess eaven the "new MS" would not go that far ... or..?!? - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
cool - please consider to work together more often especially in handling css - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
<rant>That's nice. Go IE? Lol, sort out your CSS support before choosing an icon. Please please please please. As someone who does web programming IE really needs the CSS support, not the RSS icon. The good kind of non-buggy css support. Otherwise remove IE from windows and do us all a favour eh? </rant> - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Hi Jane,
Is this icon available for others to use? Are there licensing terms that go along with it? It would be great to see everyone allowed to standardize on this icon.
Thanks! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Microsoft did a nice move towards the firefox community but unfortunately this icon is horrible. A RSS icon would have been much better for everybody!! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Good first step, Now, go integrate Gecko as your layout engine, and my life will be much easier! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I'm glad you and the mozilla team are aiming for a common icon for this, though I'm not convinced this one makes the most sense.
What symbolism is it reaching to convey?
To me it's far too much like the ones typically used for sound or volume. Why won't people assume it means that's a link to a sound file of some sort? - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
Why doesnt Microsoft entirely adopt mozilla? Firefox is still waaaay better then IE. So is Thunderbird compared with Outlook express.
I think it wouldnt be a bad bargain for MS. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Good work. Do not care about politics. Just find the best solution for the users. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Great choice!
Web site owners would be wise to exclusively use this button to represent web feeds and immediately cease the use of XML, RSS, and other similar approaches. This will greatly improve the awareness and understanding of subscription based services via web feeds for the masses. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Excellent! great choice, and it's good to see some collaboration here ;) - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Why do we need IE7 anyway? Unless, you make it open source, uninstallable and bug-free, I don't see a need for this browser. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Why do we need IE7 anyway? Unless, you make it open source, uninstallable and bug-free, I don't see a need for this browser. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Collaboration is great, but the most amazing thing about this whole letter is that they took a trip to Silicon Valley just to decide on one icon. I'm not sure how far away she was, but I can only imagine how much they spent just to decide on one icon. Unreal!!! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
As much as I like the icon, I'm more impressed with the colaboration. I'd written MS off a while ago and have switched to mostly non-MS products. I can't believe it, but I'm actually going to check out IE 7 and maybe hold off on my desktop OS switch.
Kudos to the MS and Mozilla teams for collaborating on this. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
Is this icon free for anyone to use? - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
An orange RSS icon not going to redeem IE just yet. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
That's great... I'm still not using IE though... - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Nar nar nar... firefox teach you lesson! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Very nice! I'm glade to see this kind of collaboration, at the end of day it will be win-win situation for both vendor and end users! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
The icon says "sound" to me at first glance - I've never seen it before this minute. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Awesome! Now all we have to do is agree to NOT use ActiveX to keep our webpages crossbrowser and crossplatform compatible. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Excellent! Keep on working for consistency. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
You flew 800 miles to look at a 28x28 pixel icon?
In other news: Microsoft engineers hard at work innovating a new blue "E" for their browser. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Party on Wayne.
Party on Garth.
Excellent - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
First of all, I would like to say how happy I am that two competitors are working together to provide a consistent UI for users; however, I can't say I'm pleased with the icon itself.
The use of any acronyms on an international icon is a bad idea, so good job Mozilla on that part. My problem with the icon is that the "broadcast" has no resemblance to feeds or syndication. Unfortunately, it's probably too late to change the icon now that both camps have accepted it. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I'm glad (elated, actually) to see that you are attempting to collaborate with the developers of other web browsers.
It seems to me that Microsoft actually trying to take IE7 in the direction of a really decent web browser rather than just another tool to monopolize the desktop. If the result of this cooperation is that IE7 becomes a halfway decent browser, I might not be quite so adamant that all my friends and family use Firefox exclusively in the future.
The one thing I'm still waiting to hear on is real web standards compliance. That would be a deal-maker for myself and a lot of my fellow developers. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I like to see the same color, the same icon and consistency for better understanding in the future. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Nice one! I wish microsoft stopped developing it's own standards of everything.
--linux abuser-- ;) - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Wow, microsoft co-operating with other browsers.
This can only be a good thing, next to stop the poliforation ( spelling) of RSS implementations. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
Looks like a sound toggle to me, good luck describing this to anyone in the real world over the phone. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
This cooperation should be a general model for the Future. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
<i>In fact, it just reveals how utterly pathetic a loud (but small minority) the Firefox crowd has.</i>
Please, do you actually think the 'lolz0rz! Micro$oft stlo teh icon!!1!!!' crowd represents all Firefox users? Let me take a guess - you use Opera, right?
Back on topic, I say that I can fully respect both Mozilla and Microsoft for this decision. I's nice to hear work being done on maintainting consistent interfaces making browser choice easier no matter what browser you choose.
-A proud Firefox user, Opera liker, and Opera community disliker
P.S. Sorry if this double-posts. Stupid net connection. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
Hard to believe they went for the RSS icon designed by the Firefox team. Good job! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
This collab with the firefox team is one of the most competent things I've heard of microsoft doing. You know what would really pull me back into the market for at least some microsoft software? Linux Compatibility. I know, I know. Free analogs, and all that. I'm jsut saying, I'd buy a heck of a lot more microsoft software if I could use it on all of my boxes, and interoperability were less of an issue. Just my two cents. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
I liked the IE7 icon better :< - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Excellent news. I'm very glad to hear that. Any move towards consistency and collaboration between the browser kings is very welcome indeed. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I mean, the RSS written one - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Hmm, just a question - which i already mentioned one year ago on a mozilla blog. The logo for rss feeds looks from the colors and design like the icon made almost 4 years ago for the http://www.dvbviewer.com/.
I'm sure it might be a coincidence, but i'm a bit unsure. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I love how these egomaniacs posting comments (especially the ones who dont run windows) think that anyone cares that they will continue to not use Windows or IE.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Are you guys this insufferable in person too?
-Vince p - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
It's good to see browser teams collaborating. It'd be great to have a consistant interface whatever your browsing preference. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
OK, a graphic standard is good.
However, what about the (alternative) text that describes the icon? Shouldn't that be standardized as well, so that folks using assistive technology like screen readers can easily locate RSS feeds on a web page?
If a true standard is your goal, don't forget about users with disabilities, and how they will use this information! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
great! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I hate Microsoft but this is by far, one of the best things i've read about IE7... keep making everything user-friendly and the world will be happy. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I'd rather use Firefox anyway... - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Good ! Next step : porting of IE7 on *nix platform !
;-) - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Awesome! Collaboration and cooperation is wonderful!
Erik Weibust - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Dance with the devil ... Microsoft are masters at making friends when it suits them. Just like banks ...
In the future, RSS will become more bi-directional, hence this icon will be visually wrong. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
This is great, but being able to use CSS to format a page and have it render consistently on both browsers would be awesome. OTOH, this is definitely a good move toward consistency and standardization on the Internet. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
just nice - keep on! - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I agree with two comments made here...
1. Great idea/job that both browers will have the same icon for a RSS/Atom fee.
2. The icon looks like wireless or sound related.
I personally like Newsgators Icon that is put on the IE toolbar when you install Newsgator Outlook. All browsers should adopt it, or similar.
BOb - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Wonderful! Really!
Now, please, will you copy CSS and XHTML parsing too from Gecko? And PNG correct support, please...
Maybe junking MSHTML and integrating Gecko once and for all, just to show that you RESPECT deveopers as you say in all Dev Meetings...
Please, focus on making Exploder something a litle more in standard... For the sake of a nicer web.
For us all...
Thanx. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
I am a Linux user as well as a Windows user... Speaking for myself and others, I am glad that we are finally standardizing the icons for all this stuff... Maybe they might compete by offering the Internet Explorer program for Linux that works like Galeon and Konqueror... - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
只要是符合用户要求的，我们就支持！ - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Does this mean msnspace will hammer out an agreement with Ubuntu over they're logo?
http://www.macewan.org/copy.png - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
"Er, it is the same icon used in Firefox 1.5 (go to a page with an RSS feed and you should see the icon appear in the address bar as the button to create a "Live Bookmark")."
They're very similar, but slightly different. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Now you just have to stop using ActiveX. :) - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Many of you have asked if you can use the icon. The Mozilla team told us that anyone can use it. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 15, 2005
Yeh yeh yeh Firefox the best i never come back to IE :p - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
Way to go! It simply was the only choice! Give us even more compatibily please. Presently. To often I have to switch from one browser to the other depending on which pages I am visiting. Yes. Ultimately. It is up to the designers of these sites to get it staight. Ultimately, standards are the only way to make a developers life simpler, not to mention lowering the costs and frustration of any company wanting to make teir presence known on the world wide web and beyound!
Thanks for a small, but great decision.
Keep up the good work. - Anonymous
December 15, 2005
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December 16, 2005
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December 16, 2005
Prediction here - MS is planning on buying Mozilla/Firefox. This icon thing is a deception. - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
I especially like the fact that it's not the same (no sarcasm).
It's good to make it recognizable for everyone, but I like the fact that you didn't copy it. For example, the direction of the highlight appears to be different.
Same symbol as Firefox, but it should still be Microsoft, and it is. ^_^ - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
Man ive used FireFox since it came out and never even noticed the icon. Frankly I dont think many users will notice it let alone care that its there. Ohh well, your trying, thats all that counts. - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
Quote: «I hope you allow Mozilla to use your icons and other resources if they so wish in the future.»
That's an interesting idea.
But nevermind, this is a great idea - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
Well, an icon is a.. well it's a start :)
But yet users like me will be much more happier if you standardize bookmarks for example. Say, an XML standard. This way one could store all his bookmarks in one place and use them from any browser. Hmm.. and not just browsers.
I think THAT would be a real collaboration. And much more appreciated! - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
Now that you have decided on an icon, all you need to do is rewrite the HTML-rendering engine to be somewhat standards compliant. Great first step though. cough. - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
# using the icon
Many of you have asked if you can use the icon. The Mozilla team told us that anyone can use it.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:04 PM by Team RSS @ Microsoft
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Thanks - Anonymous
December 16, 2005
You had to travel to decide to do something good for the user? Sad...
Oh, and as others have said, the icon is not that great. Sound, wireless, radio, space signals, almost any broadcast, yes. Pulling information, no. - Anonymous
December 17, 2005
I love to see IE with more advanced features like tabbed browsing and extensions integration and more secure browser. I hope IE 7 will have all these features. my blogs http://blog-magic.blogspot.com and http://cheap-laptop-review.blogspot.com - Anonymous
December 17, 2005
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December 17, 2005
..oh yea - you would need a some more billions to rewrite all the software that uses the Webbrowser control...also have a lot of software/tools that are HTAs, and an uncountable older websites that have very useful info on them, are not maintained anymore, and only work in IE - you need to rewrite all those also. - Anonymous
December 18, 2005
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December 18, 2005
It's nice to see that Mozzila is so forthcoming when it comes to sharing resources, perhaps there is something to learn here. Kudos for taking the initiative though, it's a nice effort to simplify things for the end user, I hope to see more. - Anonymous
December 18, 2005
<p><img alt="80211b_Airport_Logo.gif" src="http://jrc.freality.org/blog/archives/80211b_Airport_Logo.gif" width="36" height="46" /><br>
Apple AirPort wireless technology (circa 2000).</p>
'Nuff said. - Anonymous
December 19, 2005
Good news, but what happened to principle #2 - that it be a rectangle? I definitely prefer this outcome, I just thought those were hard rules. - Anonymous
December 19, 2005
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December 19, 2005
http://www.cafe.com/images/AirPort_Logo.gif - Anonymous
December 19, 2005
You took a trip to Silicon Valley to talk about an icon? - Anonymous
December 19, 2005
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December 20, 2005
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December 21, 2005
Just use Mozilla and be done with it. You'd all be better off.
Heck, you want a rock solid browser, more secure than anything else on the market? Konqueror's your ticket. - Anonymous
December 21, 2005
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December 25, 2005
Omg, all those people whining about Microsoft this and Microsoft that.
Guys, praise yourselves lucky that we, the user, have to choice to choose the software we want to use.
Praise yourselves lucky that there will be a uniform way to identify something (RSS in this case).
Praise yourselves lucky that Microsoft is making IE7 which will be huge improvement for the regular user.
No need to b*tch around about "ripoff", "i hate ms", and other brainless-like issues.
Think Positive: It's good to "encourage consistency between browsers". A user will then very easily make the switch from one browser to another (e.g. when surfing on an other pc where FX is the default browser, an IE user will find its way around too).
Best regards. - Anonymous
December 26, 2005
OTL..
Well done. - Anonymous
December 29, 2005
Good news. - Anonymous
December 29, 2005
<a href="http://www.mascpecialist.org">mascpecialist.org</a> has created an installer to replace your safari icons with the new industry standard set. The installer can be <a href="http://www.macspecialist.org/content/articles/lets_hold_hands/">found here</a> - Anonymous
December 29, 2005
You know, I used to be one of those people who hated Microsoft. It's weird, isn't it, how a small annoyance about a piece of software can turn into a full blown hatred for a company...
But your work on IE 7 has completely changed my outlook. I'm now proud to be a Windows user, well done! - Anonymous
December 30, 2005
HEY - wpSlider - grow up. Apple and M$ BOTH stole the GUI from Xerox PARC - and it wasn't really stealing since PARC labs was shut down anyway. All they did was poach their (ex)people.
Guys, keep up the great work. I would love to see even more collaboration between the IE and Firefox teams - but then, I'd like to see an ActiveX/.NET equivalent that ran on any platform, and I probably won't.
As for all you Linux and Mac geeks out there - resistance is futile. Join the dark side now and avoid the rush (like when your platforms die due to lack of user support - can you say Slackware?). Windows XP just works, and it works better than anything you boys have. Bear in mind that I deal with all 3 major platforms, plus Solaris, all day every day, and my KVM toggles between 4 different OSes. Frankly, Microsoft has outdone itself with XP and Vista is going to be even better. The new development attitude in the place is showing with products like IE7. This stuff is brilliant.
4 years ago, I would never have believed that I am about to say this. But here it is.... Go Microsoft go! - Anonymous
December 30, 2005
yay! go firefox! - Anonymous
December 30, 2005
Humans are so silly. Firefox, Microsoft and Google are all the same company. You are falling for it. :) - Anonymous
December 31, 2005
The best IE7 is NO IE 7 Just use Firefox or Opera or any Linux Distro With Firefox an Icon isnt a world changing event I havent used IE for months esp with the IE tab and such extensions in Firefox (even works with Windows update) - Anonymous
January 02, 2006
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January 05, 2006
Have you seen http://www.feedicons.com yet? Matt Brett (mattbrett.com) heard about this and set up a "care package" of RSS-icons-templates for all o' us to use on our sites -- you know, to help increase mass acceptance even more. - Anonymous
January 06, 2006
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January 08, 2006
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January 08, 2006
from what I've read, and beta testers have told me, IE7 doesn't pass the ACID2 test. Putting sprinkles on a cowpie doesn't change the fact that it is still sh*t.
Safari Rocks!!!! - Anonymous
January 12, 2006
It's a good decision. Surprising that whoever came up with RSS didn't have an ID (Icon) for it. - Anonymous
January 12, 2006
I think - Bob again - has missed the point. This is about the standardization of the RSS Icon, and not whether Safari, IE, Mozzie or at the Opera is better.
Anyway Apple will never be more than a flea because it has always been overpriced. It is creative designed hardware though. - Anonymous
January 12, 2006
Are these icons any site? - Anonymous
January 12, 2006
Is this new icon legal to use on any website? - Anonymous
January 17, 2006
Great, you have a 16 pixels square icon. Why not accept slightly more important standards, like CSS (which IE still doesn't support properly nearly a decade after it was introduced) and PNG (which anyone who doesn't like being sued needs to use as their web graphics format) - Anonymous
January 17, 2006
Well done Microsoft, this is excellent news. As a Windows user who develops themes for serendipity blog I'm really happy to see you guys working with Mozilla, even if it is only a small step.
Those people who want to know about using this on the website should check out http://www.feedicons.com/ where you can download the source for this icon to use in your designs.
Carl - Anonymous
January 22, 2006
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January 22, 2006
Team RSS.
Keep up the great work that you are doing. I made a blog entry about how this RSS Icon is really way to go and this will help the user experience become cleaner.
You can read the post here
http://blog.podblaze.com/public/item/112964
I also Author 6 blogs about RSS, Podcasting, RSS Business uses, RSS Communication uses, RSS marketing uses etc. That are all focused around RSS and where this great technology is moving user experiences.
I also agree that the enclosure should be used for multiple file types such as PPT, calenders, lists, PDF, photos, etc. and not just Audio. This is referencing the channel 9 interview with robert from right before gnomedex.
Keep up the excellent work!
Rodney Rumford
Founder: http://podblaze.com - Anonymous
January 23, 2006
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January 25, 2006
We may be '1 teams' yet.
It's nice to see the big boys playing together :) - Anonymous
January 26, 2006
Great.
Now I'm wondering if there'll be an animated standard version of the icon.
Kind regards,
Seb - Anonymous
February 02, 2006
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February 07, 2006
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February 11, 2006
I fully agree that a universal icon traversing language barriers and knowledge barriers is what we should have. Words are language dependent, and for most end users RSS and its interpretations lacks meaning.
The proposed icon, which I support, may in a sense resemble icons for sound or any other radiation, but when we have one special symbol for all feeds, we'll learn the meaning. ( Imagination would even suggest that feed are a kind of radiation :).
<a href="http://petitpub.com/blog/2006/02/11/feed-icon-debate/">Read my post</a> for my views and some debating links! - Anonymous
February 12, 2006
thank you - Anonymous
February 14, 2006
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February 15, 2006
I'm really glad this happened. I read the original post and even being a Microsoft fan, felt that it was a shame that another set of visual cues were going to be put in place. Working with the Moz guys was a great idea! - Anonymous
February 23, 2006
Well, looks like I'll need to add another icon to my page until everyone gets used to the new icon. :) - Anonymous
February 24, 2006
Thats Crazy
<a href="http://snet.ms"></a> - Anonymous
March 01, 2006
Well done for working with Mozilla and creating a new standard. - Anonymous
March 05, 2006
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March 06, 2006
embrace, extend, extinguish anyone? - Anonymous
March 15, 2006
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March 17, 2006
come on, stop developping web browsers, the open community can do it for you.
I don't catch the point developping a new IE7 to steal the icon, the tabbed browsing and the google search field.
It's a waste of money, you can sell your OS the same price! - Anonymous
March 27, 2006
dwk you're drunken.
I don't know if this opinion has already been expressed, but I think it would be nice to adopt the rest of Mozilla (Gecko, ..) as well.
P.S. And as a long-term experience, think about replacing this legendary (un)stable NT 5.2 with the BSD kernel just like Apple did. - Anonymous
April 05, 2006
The best IE7 is NO IE 7 Just use Firefox or Opera or any Linux Distro With Firefox an Icon isnt a world changing event I havent used IE for months esp with the IE tab and such extensions in Firefox (even works with Windows update) - Anonymous
April 05, 2006
Just use Mozilla and be done with it. You'd all be better off.
Heck, you want a rock solid browser, more secure than anything else on the market? Konqueror's your ticket.
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April 06, 2006
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April 06, 2006
Interesting post
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April 13, 2006
Exemplary gesture from MSDN team. Kudos!! - Anonymous
April 23, 2006
Fabulous site. - Anonymous
April 30, 2006
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May 03, 2006
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May 08, 2006
Tweak Window is a handy window enhancement utility with a wealth of options. You can set your own transparency options, hide, minimize, roll up, place window on top of all others, make it "ghost" or even change window icon/title. All of this can be done via hotkeys, though window's system menu or by adding appropriate buttons to the window itself. Now no one will be able to see what windows you have open.
http://www.yaodownload.com/utilites/desktop-enhancements/tweakwindow/ - Anonymous
May 14, 2006
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May 14, 2006
Hi, how to capture the unload event in safari browser, i tried with different ways, but i failed to capture that event, so please help me on this, before closing of the window i need to do something. That is onUnload=function(); is not working. There is any way to capture or not. Thanx.
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