Partager via


Do what I mean, not what I say.

So I've been p1mping C# Express pretty actively after the announcements a while back. Part of that involved telling you about the new LadyBug system and how it would be amazingly helpful if people who take the betas, hammer on them and then report back to us with bugs you find or suggestions you have.  Obviously you took what I said at face value as I now have a large number of bugs on my plate that were opened by the community.  What you didn't realize was that I didn't really mean what I said.  You were just supposed to look at the product and the web sites and go “Hey!  That's cool!” and then promptly forget about it; or “I don't need to file that bug, I'm sure someone must know about it”.  But nooooo, you decided to actually go through with all of this.  Ugh... I was planning a nice vacation to Cancun and now that's going to be put on hold. 

Sure it looks good that we're making the community much more involved in this process, but I would have preferred a more apathetic response from you guys.  next time try to think about the consequences of your actions and act a little more responsibly will you!

Comments

  • Anonymous
    July 08, 2004
    Will ladybug be productized?

    I know there's the whole team thingy with the new source control and stuff; will that incorporate bug-tracking and whatnot?
  • Anonymous
    July 08, 2004
    Yup. VS Team System includes bug tracking and lots of other featuers that I know way too little about. If you want ot know more I can find some people on those teams that you can talk to!
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    You don't get a vacation until I do. ;p
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    So from your end, what's the difference between incoming items on Betaplace, versus on Ladybug?
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    Michael: not sure what you mean...

    In the end I just end up with a bug that I need to fix :(

    About the only difference would probably be volume. I think betaplace might be for a limited set of people, whereas LadyBug is completely public. So right now I'm seeing more bugs coming in from the latter.
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    Maybe you should just do it right the first time around! ;)

    Seriously, though, it's better that you have so many bugs to work on now, than post-release. It's nothing when a Beta has issues, but if you let all these things pile on and remain undiscovered until production...well, let's just say there's always room for the product's reputation to go down.

    Hang in there, and good luck fixin'!
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    "Maybe you should just do it right the first time around! ;) "

    Doh!! Why didnt' I think of taht. I'm going to go tell me boss that. I bet our productivity will soar if we just follow that simple rule.
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    This (your reasoning) is why the Open Source paradigm works!!! If you can not (obviously) deliver a flawless (IMHO impossible to do) application then learn from your users and be thankfull that some people have taken on the task (YOUR job) of going over your mistakes.
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    Og: I never said the Open Source 'paradigm' didn't work...

    If you couldn't tell, I was just joking. I am incredibly thankful for the support that the community is giving us here. We depend on it and we're trying to work with it in order to make our software even better.
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    Cyrus,

    My sincere apologies then... I must have missed the sarcasm in your post. I'm glad to know that you do take advantage of our community's effort to better your product.

    Sincerely,
    Og Maciel
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    Og: No problem :-)
  • Anonymous
    July 09, 2004
    hey somebody needs to invent an internationally recognised smiley for sarcasm... would save all this confusion!
  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2005
    Is there any way for non VS .NET users to access bug reports or does everyone has to have IDE to take care of them?