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Developer Toolbar for IE announced at PDC

The developer community has asked for a long time: Where is the free developer toolbar for IE? We recognized the popularity of free IE tools like Fiddler and we listened to your feedback. I am glad to announce the next addition to our developer tool support: The IE dev toolbar. This tool will help developers to explore their HTML documents and understand everything about it.

With the IE Dev Toolbar you have several features at your fingertips to go deep into existing pages or pages that you are currently creating. You will be able to explore the DOM tree and find elements on the page, disable IE settings, view information, outline elements, control images, resize pages to common screen resolutions and have a powerful ruler that lets you measure pixel perfect content on your page. It also will help you to validate against existing standards and provides pointers to W3C specs.

At Chris’ talk at the PDC on Tuesday, he announced that we would have a beta version available very soon. This is now ready and available for download. It is designed to work on IE6 as well as IE7.

I would like to thank our interns, Carl LeCompte, Mary Ann Jawili, Barbara Morales, Seth McLaughlin and Jeffrey Varga for doing a great job working on this project, and also a big thanks to David McKinnis, our developer.

I would love to hear in the comment section what you think and what additional features you would like to see added. Bugs can be reported at the Channel9 wiki.

 - Markus

Comments

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    "It also will help you to validate against existing standards and provides pointers to W3C specs."

    Nice job guys. It's time for the rest of the Internet to join the standards crowd.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Yeah! I'll give it whirl right now...

    ...first impression...installer requires reboot...yuch. More later.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The Internet Explorer team just released a developer toolbar for IE 6 & 7. I just installed it and...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Really good stuff!

    I tested it against this blog and the result could have been better. :P

    Result: Failed validation, 75 errors

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    New : Toolbars to help validate with existing standards.

    STILL missing : Full standards compliance (CSS 2.1 in particular)

    Aren't you a bit ironic?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @Andy We are aware of the reboot problem and working on a fix. Please take into account that this is a Beta.

    -- Markus

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The IEBlog just announced the availability of the IE Developer Toolbar.
    The FireFox guys have had something...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    what about a javascript console?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Well, it looks a LOT like Firefox's webdeveloper and DOMInspector extensions.


    BTW, it would be good if the keyboard works while editing an element property. If you press backspace, home, end etc, IEDev sends the key to the navigator and not to the edit. Annoying.

    What about DOM tree manipulation? Like deleting nodes?

    And, finally, what about being able to edit CSS properties on-the-fly?

    best regards and keep the good work!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    A wiki is not well suited for tracking bugs. Why don't you put up a real bug reporting/tracking site? Or would it be too transperent?

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    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    So far I like it, after 15mins with it. The resize feature alone is worth the reboot IMHO. I run in 1280x1024 and this makes it nice and easy to see my developement on lower settings. The view DOM and the other various Views are also nice. Good work in my opinion. I'm still trying this tool out but so the only shortcoming is the views are cut short on the links.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    If you keep up this level of good news after another, I'm gonna switch to IE later this year! I'm indeed happy to see and know about the progress being made - but unfortunately there's still the history to deal with...

    However, a developer toolbar is indeed extremely important for us - when it has live CSS-editing. The rest (more or less) we easily get with FF already, so I sincerely hope you manage to implement it in the final version...

    I'm looking very much forward to IE7, and I'm looking really, REALLY much forward to IE8! -if you manage to keep the pace.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    :-) Very helpful - overall - will be interesting to watch how it evolves!

    The only minor flaw was the only resize option 800 X 600 - perhaps more options could be added

    Also, an option to "view source" for a SELECTION would be helpful (of course this tool exists in IE toys)

    This toolbar, could also be an option for the new Phishing filter tool

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    More info about VISTA install broke is here:

    http://www.msvistablog.net/comment.php?comment.news.45

    It will be nice if someone help me in the right direction inorder to get my vista back to working state; else only option is to reinstall it.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I'm glad to see this being developed. I've wanted a feature like this for IE for some time. The Web Accessibility Toolbar never met my needs. I've posted a preliminary review of the toolbar on my site: http://c82.net/article.php?ID=23 .

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Not much new from Firefox but I still like it! The ruler tool is really cool!
    Any chance that you can avoid the freeze when clicking on "View->View class and id information"? When doing it on www.msn.se for example my IE freeze for almost 15 seconds :(. The same function have no effect here on IEBlog also. Checking the source tells me there are lots of class attributes but nothing is shown with the toolbar.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Why the ruler? That's just going to encourage people to focus on their site looking exactly the same everywhere, which is exactly not the point of CSS or the web in general.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Thanks for giving me a demonstration of IE7 at PDC, Markus!

    This dev toolbar is great... :)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I applaud this move a lot! Yeah Firefox has had the Web Developer Toolbar extension by chris pederick at...
    http://chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/

    ...but I agree this will help spread standards.

    Matt, CSS 2.1 isn't a standard, CSS 2.0 is.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    John - actually, neither CSS2.0 or 2.1 got to recommendation stage. CSS2.0 stopped at candidate recommendation and CSS2.1 got to CR before being dropped back to Working Draft for some alterations.

    To be picky, W3 isn't a standards body so nothing they produce is a standard, merely a recommendation.

    MS should still be aiming to implement CSS2.1 though, 2.0 never reached recommendation stage because it was pretty much unimplementable fully. That's why we have a 2.1 version.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Hey, the next thing you copy from Firefox...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Finally i can outline elements :)

    Whenever I click 'Disable Images' it resizes the window and doesn't disable any images. I'm sure you're already of this bug though.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The IE Developer Toolbar Beta has been released. It requires Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 and runs on IE 6. From the download site:

    The Microsoft Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar provides...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    While I've been out with the birth of our first child (a beautiful baby boy) the IE team have released...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Just awesome. I love the tools thank you! Anyway to get color coded correctly formatted source view built in? You guys are really raising the bar on IE good work and keep it coming..

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @Me, Tyler and Allen

    You are able to live edit properties (CSS and Microsoft only extensions). Just click on the little + sign after opening the DOM view and enter the property with value. You can also delete live entries with the - sign (click on the property you wan to delete first).

    -- Markus

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Markus, I think you misunderstood me. I want to be able to run code on my webpage that changes the DOM, and have the DOM view automatically reflect those updates, not the other way around.

    I put together a little example. go to this page: http://tylerkaraszewski.com/test.html

    and open up the DOM Explorer (expand the "body" element). Then click "add div". It adds a new div to the page, but it doesn't show up in the DOM Explorer. It should.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    This toolbar looks very useful. Of course, it's a beta, and it still "feels" like a beta. Here are a few ideas for improving it:
    * the DLL should be signed
    * being able to edit the CSS rules (not simply the element styles) could be very useful
    * a "disable CSS" entry
    * the menu bar doesn't behave like the usual IE menu bars (if you open a menu, then move the mouse cursor over another bar entry, the first menu stays open, instead of following the mouse)
    * I'd like to be able to remove the "DevToolBar" bar title, and to move the bar to the bottom of the window (this may not be specific to this toolbar), or to turn this bar into one menu entry, with submenus.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003

    <p>I haven't had a chance to have a good play with it yet, but there's a developer toolbar for IE now - <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/16/469686.aspx" class="ExternalLink">http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/16/469686.aspx</a></p>

    <p>Most exciting thing to me seems to be the option to inspect the page's DOM.</p>

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The width of the toolbar seems fixed, which makes it somewhat inconvinient in resizing the toolbar (especially along with other toolbars.)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    It's nice, but the bug with the backspace in the DOM editor annoys me, and more Firefox Webdeveloper toolbar functions would be nice.
    Then I'll never have to use again :D :D

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Um, whoops... I mean to say "it's NOT just about enforcing a strict pixel-perfect layout." :)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003

    We've all be able to use the DOM Inspector in Firefox. Now the IE Team releases the Developer Tooolbar...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Firstly, one bug for IE6 XP Home SP2, is where selecting the 'Disable Images' option under 'Disable' will close down IE.

    Now, this may be to far out of scope for this toolbar, but having an option to open a page in tabs rendered as it would in older versions of IE would be a really handy addition.

    For example, being able to open up a page in three or four tabs, where by one tab is the current browser view, the second is IE 6, the third IE 5.5 and perhaps a forth for IE 5 would enable developers to easily compare what different IE users see, and adjust their sites accordingly.

    I know that such a tool option may not be possible, but I thought I’d at least suggest it, just in case could be a possibility, as I think it would really come in handy.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Thanks guys - really thanks!

    To the pedant who commented about "us" being able to use the FF DOM toolbar- Understand that they render differently - walking the DOM isn't as useful in FF if you need to tweak for IE.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    By Mark Harrison


    The IE Developer Toolbar was announced at PDC and provides several features for...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I thought of commenting on two bugs reported here... :)

    1. Chris said, "<i>IE6 XP Home SP2, is where selecting the 'Disable Images' option under 'Disable' will close down IE</i>" ... I tested it under the same setup, and it does not close IE..actually the behavior, it closes the current Window and reopens a new Windows with disabled pictures. May be they can avoid the restart of IE here.. or in IE7, they might open in a new tab. But remember, the Disable images will be checked for every until you wanted to enable back.

    2. Mathew said "<i>View Image Report crashes IE 6 every time</i>". ....but it all seemed to work fine. I tested with http://www.msvistablog.net/news.php; and I got a nice report telling few img links that I have does not have alt specified

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Needs:

    * Disable CSS (obvious omission)

    * UI more like standard windows behaviour, i.e. sticky menus.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003

    Wow, without FireFox providing us with great tools, you guys would probably not release this. I think this is a nice attempt, and I'll give it a whirl... but you guys have lost my trust a while ago.

    Seriously, you have billions upon billions of dollars and resources beyond any other company in the software industry. Why can't you guys innovate on your own instead of reacting to a poorly funded group of open source guys with passion.



  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Nice, very nice. But 'disable CSS' is missing... And i don't like I can't collapse this toolbar like others and make this small arrow on the right to dropdown invisible elements.

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    January 01, 2003
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    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Very good tool!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great toolbar. I've been waiting for something like this ever since IE 6 came along and broke the Web Developer Accessories for IE 5. (Remember that anybody?)
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/previous/webaccess/webdevaccess.mspx

    It would be great if this new toolbar would include some of that old functionality, like right-clicking to see view specific source code.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Eindelijk een nuttige toolbar voor ontwikkelaars. De eerste beta van de Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Very useful. I've been waiting for this. The DOM explorer exhibits a few funnies though. The web app that I am developing, dynamically manipulates the DOM. This usually causes the DOM explorer to be totally cleared rendering it useless until I restart the browser. If that got fixed, I'd find this a very useful tool.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    +1 for Disable CSS.

    When outlineing could the nested elements be outlined in a different colour to the parent element?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Like it, it's a good start.

    How about some links through to the relevant section in MSDN for a particular element on the page? That way, I could see all of the documentation etc for an element with a single click!

    A JavaScript console would be great.

    An event watch would be cool too.

    Have you seen webtool?

    http://www.iconico.com/webtool/

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Really nice tool - I've been missing an IE equivalent to Firefox' Web Developer Extension for a long time.

    One serious problem should however be fixed: The toolbar should not save state for "disable" options. If I choose "disable cookies" it should only affect the current browser session - otherwise it is easy to forget to reset these options when you want to browse "normally". Some kind of visual indication of a non standard configuration (such as disabled script or cookies) would also be nice.

    But for a first release, and still in beta, this toolbar is still a great tool.
    Thank's for listening.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great! I've installed it and like what I see so far. The only things that I would ask for as extra features would be a javascript debugger (though I guess that's a whole new plugin on it's own) and the ability to view the generated source for the page.

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    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    [poorly funded group of open source guys with passion. ]

    Ah ah lol. Netscape and Sun as "poorly funded group of open source guys with passion" lol. Rated at the Nasdaq, but poor and with passion :-)

    You won't even have a freeware browser in the first place without Microsoft.

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    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    An Internet Explorer developer toolbar was announced and released at PDC on Friday. I downloaded it an installed it. Alrhough I don't use IE, I do make sure that designs I work on, display correctly in it. This seems like...

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Glad to see MSFT IE join the 21st century!

    One, REALY BIG ommision. Where are the options to adjust FORM ELEMENTS? e.g. show the hidden fields, make readonly fields editable, etc.

    PS Not sure how it (the toolbar, etc.) looks in XP/Vista, but it is real ugly on Win2k/IE6.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Probably you don't know about my programm: PageSpy.

    There are many features are you taking about: http://www.sembel.net/

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great job guys! The Firefox WebDev toolbar was one of the primary reasons I started using Firefox. I'm glad to see IE finally catching up.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Awesome! Thanks!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Very nice to see a tool like this for web developers. It has a rather impressive set of features to start.

    Some possible things to add:
    - Ability to move the Dom Explorer to the left side or right side of the window (not just bottom)
    - Node information and Style information could become two tabs and possibly be made more compact. (there's quite a bit of whitespace)
    - A way to list all: Scripts, IFrames, Links, Images, Forms, etc...
    - Better DHTML support:
    a. ability to view script source (for inline scripts as well). Debugbar (http://www.debugbar.com) has a really nice way of handling this.
    b. JavaScript Console would totally rock. Especially if there would be some way to send debug messages to it.
    c. Ability to view DHTML properties (for people who work with JavaScript and DHTML) would save so much time coding and figuring things out.

    Thanks for a great toolbar. I hope more great stuff will come with later releases.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Jim: The "right-click to view source" option in the IE5 Web Accessories still works in IE7, or you can get that and other features in a pack of IEToys. See http://www.bayden.com/ietoys/

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I must say that I take extreme issue with Microsoft’s use of the word “quickly” in the description of this toolbar. My initial tests of the toolbar proved it to be in fact very slow. Not only was it slow, but it actually crashed Internet Explorer on several tests. These weren’t very difficult tests either, by the way.

    The final test, and the straw that broke the camels back: Both this toolbar and Firefox's toolbar feature an option to resize the browser window to 800×600. In IE’s toolbar, if your screen resolution is set higher than 800×600 and if your browser window is maximized before you toggle this option, the window will be resized but will still think it is maximized, meaning you can’t drag the corners to resize and the top-right window icon still shows the window as being maximized. In order to “reset” the window you have to first click the “restore” icon (middle of the top-right three icons on any maximized window) at which point the window will be restored to it’s pre-resized-pre-maximized size… confused? I was too.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The developer toolbar is a good start in helping developers deal with some every-day issues. However IE developers could definitely benefit from some enhanced Javascript debugging capabilities.

    The free MS Script Debugger is too clumsy to be of any real use, and not everyone can afford to buy Visual Studio to debug their JavaScript. Alerts get tedious as well.

    If Microsoft were to make the functionality of it's Visual Studio script debugger available outside of Visual Studio it would definitely be a boon to anyone who wants to develop more complex web apps on IE.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    View Image Report does crash IE6, as Matthew said, or at least it did so for me.

    The ruler's Snap to Element feature worked great on a relatively simple page, but on a page with four frames (including nested frames) and the DOM viewer open, it stopped outlining the elements I was hovering over.

    The DOM viewer's Find > Select element by click... feature also became unreliable after a time. It seems to have trouble with frames.

    All in all, a great tool and very impressive for a beta. The pixel ruler is not just for fixed, px-perfect layouts, but also gives a developer insight into why a page is being layed out the way it is. I've already used the toolbar to figure out which element was the troublemaker that was causing unwanted horizontal scroll in a webapp I'm working on.

    Thanks!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    A nicely designed tool.

    For features the following come to mind:

    1) Show DOM nodes in lower case AND MAYBE in the case of the source page.

    2) Ability to strap in another local validator (like CSE), and hide links to the existing (web based) ones.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    AND

    3) A resize option, back to original setup is important.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    The new toolbar looks good. The only thing it is missing for me is an option to look at the http headers for a given page. This is very helpfull if you are doing changes on the server side of things.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @Jason Remillard: Fiddler (mentioned in the post) does this, and much more.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Looked great when I installed it. Unfortunately, after it crashed a few times (and of course brought down IE) I had to uninstall it. Any known problems using the toolbar on XP SP2, IE6 with MSN toolbar & tabs?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Well, it seams like it changes the settings of trusted sites. When i installed it, all my trusted sites suddenly didnt accept cookies anymore. Worked when i removed the sites from trusted sites. Dunno if it has anything to do with the toolbar, but happens just after i installed it.

    When i uninstalled it, it seams like it removed some of the file type extensions registered to IE (eg. xml).

    Anyone else have had this problem ?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great tool! I love the ruler.
    It would be great to have eyedropper/colorpicker tool included too.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I am a software engineer from India.

    Now for this tool,

    Great Tool !

    Though the documentation said that it requires Windows XP or more, but I have tested it with Windows 2000 SP4 and IE6.

    And you guys wont believe it, it worked too fine here.

    Even that Image report was also not crashing.

    Great Great Tool !

    My 5* for this.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great comments and suggestions, everyone! I'm looking into the reported issues and hope to get some answers and fixes.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    What I like about the toolbar:
    1. Doesn't take up too much space, and no ugly icons.
    2. Outlining elements doesn't break the layout.
    3. The ruler is very nice.
    4. The DOM is nice.

    What I don't like about the toolbar:
    1. It crashed when using 50% of the features.
    2. There's no CSS tools.
    3. The interface in IE is so bad that sometimes a toolbar will be right where I want it to be, but when I close and open IE again the toolbars will be so messed up it's not even funny.
    4. The tooltips in the DOM just don't feel right. There should also be an option to open the DOM in a seperate window.
    5. And it's "missing" a lot of features compared to the Firefox toolbar.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Been looking for something like this for a very long time. The only missing thing is to be able to edit style sheet properties on the fly.

    You can edit element attributes on the fly, but i want to also experiment and see what style sheets really do.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Tjerk:
    Should be in Control Panel | Add Remove Programs

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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great job. This is a wonderful tool. In particular, the ability to "Select Element by Click" is very nice, and being able to interactively update CSS styles and other element attributes is extremely useful.

    When enabling such View options as "View Link Paths", it would be helpful to be able to cut-and-paste the values displayed on the page.

    I would love to see HTTP header logging and ECMAScript event tracing included as future enhancements.

    Thanks again for this great utility.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    http://www.ocntrans.com/

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    When the Developer Toolbar is active, and from an IE window I open a new window where my Java applet is running, and then I close that new window, IE crashes. Can you check?

    Please contact me at splintor@gmail.com.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I installed the toolbar but it's not showing up in IE even after two reboots. I checked under View > Toolbars and it's not there. Is it a security setting that's causing this? I've got it working on one system at home but not my work PC. Your help is appreciated. Thanks :)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Can we get an update on the progress of the toolbar? It has been quite useful so far, but the more I use it the less it works. In fact I don't think it really works at all any more.

    Firefox's toolbar is easily far more superior and advanced than the IE version. I know it's beta, but betas have updates and bug fixes too.

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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Another bug - it doesn't work with framesets.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    <ctrl> - r should not bring the ruler up ! I have been using it for too long to refresh pages ! If there is a way to change it in the interface i cannot see it.

    On my companies web application the outline views fall to pieces under the weight of objects (am running ie. 7 on windows xp tablet 2005 / .Net 2(PC is sonoma 1.8ghz/ 2gb Ram)

    A great first start !

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Thank you for wonderful software.
    The Web development makes progress by this software.
    However, I think it is better when not corresponding to Japanese
    corresponds.

    thank you.

    naka@wankuma.com

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Ability to add/change URL's for validators would be a nice improvement, e.g. would allow adding ATRC's Web Accessibility Checker which checks for WCAG 2.0 guidelines

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Today I installed Microsoft Script Debugger and the IE Developer Toolbar. I have problems with both.

    I experienced "Not Responding" when trying to single step (by clicking in Script Debugger), and in a couple other cases, even for very very simple html pages. Script Debugger seemed light on features anyway. With the problems, I've lost interest in it.

    Developer Toolbar looks very good, but a couple things are very annoying. We use frames in our UI.

    (a) The Find (by click) option is cool but the tracking on the page is off. I have to click above the actual object by about an inch. It's as if the top frame throws off the tracking.

    (b) We have a refresh built in the page (I know, bad practice). This causes the DOM window to refresh whenever I change the page refreshes. Unfortunately, it unexpands the tree so I can't see the lower level structure, so I do this over and over (yes, I can disable the refresh to work around this.

    I'm now off to try with Firefox and the tools mentioned. Fix the above and I would not have even gone off to look at Firefox for this. Thanks!
    Alan

    alan at carwiles dot com

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I hope you don't think about releasing IE7 without a Javascript console. Not only that, but please actually report the right file, and script debugger sometimes wouldn't pick up an error. Your errors on IE6 told us there was an error on the wrong page, and then you have to just guess which of the 60 javascript files on the portal page actually had the error. 3/4 of the time I can track the error down by using Firefox, but when the error is IE-only, then we basically are reduced to intelligent guessing if the Script debugger, or throwing in a million alerts. This is no way to do web development. If you don't fix this, web developers will think you don't really care about us and just pretend to. Security is important, but supporting web developers is equally important. You make my job very hard.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great tool! One comment: find element by Class needs support for elements belonging to more than one class. For example, I may have a bunch of divs with class="product" and some may have class="product outofstock" or class="product new" or class="product onsale" or class="product discontinued". How can I use find element by Class to get find all products? It should find all elements that BELONG to the class entered, not just those elements that MATCH the class entered, since elements can belong to more than one class.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Found out the issue: I'd unchecked the "Enable third-party browser extensions" under Tools > Internet Options > Advanced.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I have a feature request. The thing is, after you have outlined several elements, then you might want to see the page without the outlines. But you have to go and untick every item you have highlighted. A "Remove outline" button that cancel all previous outlining would be nice.
    (I know that you can refresh to reset the whole lot, but sometimes you don't want to reset the whole lot, but only remove the outlining.)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Great tool.....

    1) Can you please add one more link to check the http headers.
    2)I am getting a Javascript Error on trying to view cookie information.
    Misc > view cookie information.

    Thanks !!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003

    I liked the "view DOM".

    Can one of the programmers be kind enough to post here how u show the content (linked) of IFRAME ?

    I've tried (when handling OnDocumentComplete):

    1)====
    ....
    CComQIPtr<IHTMLFrameBase2> spFrame;
    CComQIPtr<IHTMLWindow2> spWindow2;
    ....
    spFrame->get_contentWindow(&spWindow2);
    spWindow2->get_document(&spDocInsideFrame);

    2)====
    and also KB 196340

    but it doesnt work.
    yep. I know it's not groups.google.com here,
    but it worked for you guys.

    Thanks !!

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    DOM inspector has problems showing contents of IFrames from a different domain (JavaScript security?).

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Awesome; Very helpfull tool.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    How can I uninstall the toolbar? I can not find it in the remove toolbar-tool.
    Sorry, since I installed, my Explorer became unstable.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I installed Developer Toolbar and it shows up on my toolbars list in IE6.

    Problem is nothing happens when I click on it. Doesn't even add the checkmark.

    Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    There are a ton of feature requests in this thread which I agree would be great to have, but I'd like to third the request for a color picker. In order to get color values currently, I often find myself screenshotting IE and pasting into Photoshop, or looking through code.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Us Firefox developers have been validating our code for awhile now

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