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Technology Camps, iPod, and the End to End Experience

In life there are always at least two camps. When I was a kid it was Nike vs Reebok. For some people it's Audi vs BMW, for others it's iPod vs everything else. I feel that I am in many camps, but when it comes to Apple vs Microsoft, MCE vs TiVo, iPod vs Everything else I feel that I have as an objective point of view as is possible. How? Well I have owned or own both, and love each for what they bring to the table. I worked on Mac software at Microsoft, loved the Mac OS and the products I work on, but I also love the products my company makes.

I've seen a lot of activity over the last few days both in the blogsphere and inside Microsoft in reaction to this Wired Article. First and foremost, this article was silly. There was no story here, and it was sensational at best. For heavens sake I carried a PowerBook around at Microsoft for 4 years and no one ever said jack to me. The notion that people at Microsoft are offended or care that I might use a competitors product is ludicrous. The notion that you can build a better product than your competition without using and loving that product is silly. You cannot build a better product than your competition unless you are intimately familiar with the competition. The only way to do that without fooling yourself is to use it, day in and day out. I wish everyone in the Media Group at Microsoft had an iPod.

What some people fail to understand is that there is a fundamental difference between Apple and Microsoft. Apple creates the hardware for their end users. They start with an end to end scenario. That is, they come up with a compelling idea, and they design the solution. From the Apple Store to the experience at home opening the item, taking it out of its packaging, and installing the software then using the device is a well orchestrated series of events. Apple has spent months if not years thinking about how to perfect this experience. No other company does this in the consumer space, and it's not possible unless you own everything in the scenario. In this case Apple owns the store, the hardware, the music store, the software to connect to the device, the software to download from the store, and the relationship with all the record labels who provide the media. This is incredibly powerful when you are trying to solve specific scenarios, and when it comes to things people have always been incredibly passionate about (music) it matters.

Now contrast this to Microsoft. For the past few years the focus has been on building a world class platform. From the codec's, to the encoding technology, to the protocol for moving bits from the computer to the device, to the encryption technology, policy enforcement of digital rights, and servers to manage those rights it's all been spec'ed and delivered in a manner that any software developer can utilize. You can create your own Music Store and sell content to anyone with a compatible device. You can build a device that can play rich video and audio. You can build software that can manipulate that music, and organize it for users, or even a new shell that can present that media to the user who is sitting on their couch and interacts via a remote control. You can even buy a cell phone that can consume these media files! Talk about a rich eco system. But that's what it is; a platform for anyone with a desire to build on. Microsoft participates in this eco system via the MSN Music Store, and other various properties, but we do not dictate how much you will pay, and what device you will use. We give you choice, and history has shown time and time again, that choice is always more powerful. Choice and flexibility always wins. Consumers want choice.

However, that choice comes at a huge price in this case. The cost of doing this is that until Microsoft starts to make audio devices, or an OEM can produce a product that delivers on a totally solid end to end experience, we'll always be in an us vs them state of affairs. A music device these days is a form of personal expression. Like a phone, or a watch, it's part of your identity and something which brings you joy. I think this is why people are so interested and opinionated in this debate. They feel like they are being attacked personally, and well, most folks don't like that. However, I respect both the iPod and the platform Microsoft provides for their own qualities. I absolutely love the out of box experience you get with the iPod. Everything about it has been designed to work. If you buy a Creative Zen Micro you have to install firmware before you can even take advantage of the technology platform we have built to provide a seamless synchronization experience with Windows Media Player. Where is the value proposition there? When you purchase a Rio Carbon you need to use a sledge hammer to get the packaging opened before you can use your device! Not so with the iPod, as you are greeted by a friendly and happy white box that opens like a well engineered package should. It says "Designed in California" and has a beautiful stainless steel and acrylic build that you don't want to tarnish. My Rio Carbon has a cheap coat of paint on it that is pealing of. How can you compare? How can you convince OEMs to care as much as Apple and spend as much time and money caring?

Well I don't know the answers to all these questions but I do know this. I love the iPod; it's fantastic. However, I don't purchase any music from iTunes because I love my Windows Media Center and I want my music to work everywhere that my ears can listen. That means my from my living room couch where I can control my Media Center, from my portable device on the train where I spend 2 hours a day, from the speakers of my car when I spend time on the weekend, from my office computer and from my laptop. I want full fidelity at home, which means lossless audio, and I want as many songs as will fit on 5 GB w/o a significant loss in audio quality (128 K WMA VBR). I also want to manage all this music from a single music library, and I want to be able to move all my purchased audio around to all these device. This is my end to end scenario, and for me Windows provides the platform to do all this. The iPod is still a better end to end experience for a portable device, I will not deny that. However, the OEMs are getting better at delivering hardware. That takes lot of work and evangelism on our part. We don't make the hardware, that's not what Microsoft is about today (I'm not arguing that we should or shouldn't). However, we are awesome at making a killer end to end technology platform and placing choice in the hands of the consumer. That choice comes at a cost of using our file format, but that file format is public, available, and licensable. FairPlay is not. iTunes is not open, and there are no other choices but the iPod on the Mac. Once upon a time there were third party music players, but Apple has taken away the incentive to stick around. As we continue to improve the platform and work with the OEMs the end to end portable device scenario will get better. If you need examples just look at where the Mobile Devices division has come from and where the Pocket PC and Smartphone are today. Look at the Portable Media Center; there is nothing in it's class that is as good. It will get smaller and the OEMs will create more unique form factors to address user needs. And for something where we aren't following, but leading, look at the Tablet PC. You may not need or want one, but it's an incredible testament to what is possible with time and investment in our part. The rest of the story continues with investment in helping the OEMs build a variety of products, with great experiences that give people more choice in what they can buy. People like choice.

Comments

  • Anonymous
    February 03, 2005
    Very well written.

    I was disturbed by many people overeacting to that WIRED article, like a little child who found a candy under an old sofa.

    I have an iPod, but I converted all my music formats from AAC to MP3, having realized how 'closed' the format was.

    I will buy iRiver soon because I want my musics to be universally compatible.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Well, you got it half right.

    The Wired article WAS silly. Your descriptions of the culture and business model differences between Apple and MS are dead on.

    But that's about it.

    (1) iTunes is not open. I agree, but to call anything else - including the MS licensable alternatives open is simply painting an inaccurate picture. There are more similarites here than differences.

    (2) You show ignorance of Apple when you say "there are no other choices but the iPod on the Mac". One has virtually nothing to do with the other.

    (2a) You can sync up your iPod with various programs, including iTunes. iTunes is available for for Windows and OS X boxes. iTunes can handle the MOST USED digital format - MP3.

    (2b) You generally don't play your digital music "on a Mac" with your iPod as the source. Um, iTunes does it quite well. So does quite a few other apps.

    (2c) There are several sources where you can buy the MOST USED digital music format - MP3. iTunes can import them very easliy. So, are you locked into buying from the iTune Music Store? Nope.

    (2d) So now we're down to this: iTunes is free. Kinda kills your claim of iTunes not being open in a few ways, doesn't it.

    Look, the Wired article was one of the stupidest articles they wrote in a long time. (Then again, it did get everyone's attention!) Microsoft makes solid products.

    But for you to make a claim of being objective and then state these blatantly false items... is disingenuous.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Dave, thanks for the comments. They are appreciated. I have some rebuttal.

    1) I can write code on Windows that can cosume DRM files on a PC. You cannot do this on Apple's platform. You cannot use their technology to protect your content etc. You can do this with Microsoft's SDKs

    2) But there are no other real choices

    2a) True, but you also cannot play FairPlay DRM files in any other program except iTunes.

    2b) Not sure what this is in reference to

    2c) I don't buy this. I am going to purchase my music from a reputable music store, one that has relationships with the record labels. Record labels will not allow third parties to sell their stuff unless it has DRM.

    2d) Well I disagree.

    I guess there is no such thing as objective when technology camps exist. I have spent a lot of time in both camps though, and I don't feel tied to any one platform. I just explained my point of view in a way that I felt was objective.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    You guys talk about "choice" as if people really care. What matters more whether it works. Frankly, as much as you might have to use Windows to get by, no one really likes it because it really doesn't work the way an OS should. Neither does a consumer electronics device that gets hooked into Windows.

    Until you realize that people are frustrated and "had enough" with perpetual endless maintenance of their Windows PC, you'll fail to see why the iPod has caught on.

    The only people who keep arguing the DRM issue are geeks. The average person doesn't care as long as their music plays consistently and reliably.

    You guys simply don't get it.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Omar, nice observations. However, I think your argument for choice in this instance overlooks something. Consumers do like choice... there are lots of choices out there for audio players and music stores. Apple certainly wasn't the first to sell a hard-drive based music player... they just did it best, and consumers responded. Apple wasn't the first to offer a legal music download service... they just did it best, and consumers responded.

    I think the problem here is that you and others just don't like the choices consumers are making. Despite the universe of other players and music services, consumers are overwhelmingly choosing iPod and the iTunes music store (90% of hard-drive player market; 70% of music download market respectively). The key word here is "choosing." No one is forcing this stuff on them... they're choosing it.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Which do you think is harder:

    Apple licensing Fairplay and attempting to meet your needs with the iPod/iTunes system

    or

    MS and its OEM's matching the Apple experience in music players

    I ask because I see Apple moving very fast in extending their system and I think they're model offers them a greater innovative capacity in the consumer space. Maybe in the next round Apple will again meet your needs as well or better than the MS platform. What would it take for Apple to get you back to the iPod/iTunes platform?

    PS I guess having all your current music in WMA lossless is another barrier that maybe we could ignore, converting being a pain and all.

    Thanks!

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Well myseflf, my wife, my sister and mother use an iPod... so I don't know if that holds true. I also own a Rio Carbon though.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
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  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
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  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Let's see: iTunes works on Mac and Windows. MS DRM with Media Player only works on Windows.

    And who has the closed system?

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    It really depends on what your definition of closed is. MS DRM can work on any platform.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
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  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    What platforms? I can't purchase a song from MS's music site and play it on Media Player on my Mac!It discludes all of us Mac users. It won't work on a Mac!

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    Cliff: you summed it up so very well. Thanks for taking the time.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    I forgot a couple of things.

    First, the "choice" platform is also the "no accountability" platform. I'm sorry to say this, but it's true. If something is wrong with Apple's music solutions, you go to apple. You can buy applecare and get phone tech support for three years covering any aspect of apple's solution. You can even get free support if you go to an apple retail store, after the applecare or normal warranty expires.

    On the WMA platform, Napster can tell you to call iRiver, and then you call iRiver and they tell you to call Napster. This happens whenever there's an intractable problem - it's some other provider's fault.

    Needless to say, this is not very satisfying for the consumer.

    I think what we have here is a company (Microsoft) with a certain business model. It's applying that model to a new market. If that model worked in that market, it would be a great business for Microsoft. I'm not sure it will work.

    Honestly, the only way I can see it working is if there's no more innovation or advances possible. Certainly apple's model has the upper hand now because it can innovate and add features that are just much, much harder to implement on a platform of the kind MS likes to build.

    Of course, what's to stop apple from licensing Fairplay and all it's other music technologies at that point?

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    One more -

    I think Apple will provide the "from the couch" functionality -- for music -- using a remote with a small screen that interfaces with Airport express using bluetooth. The display would be very similar to the iPod display - except it will show the shared music libraries in your home network as opposed to what's on a local drive. Note that Airport express has a USB port, which could be used for a bluetooth add-on (worst case apple has to design another variant of Airport Express).

    I'm betting apple could offer an Airport Express/Remote package for $199 or maybe $249. A lot cheaper than a Media Center PC and you wouldn't have to have a TV nearby for the interface.

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    "People like choice."

    Which is precisely why Apple, the non-Microsoft variation, has become a brand of coalescence against what would be a non-choice under the single-DRM Microsoft 'choice'.

    MSFT talks up 'choice' vs iPod/iTunes. What it really offers is choice as long as it's MSFT DRM. In other words, you can have half dozen lousy players or half dozen insipid music stores as long as they all run on the MSFT platform/DRM/player/etc. That's some choice!

  • Anonymous
    February 04, 2005
    I see that you only approve what you want to hear. OK, I see how it works.

    This is yet another reason why you don't get it.

    Fool yourself as much as you want, people don't really want choice - they want it to work easily and more important, the first time.

    censor away... it is your page but the market, you can't censor that.

    :)

    na

  • Anonymous
    February 05, 2005
    Omar, you wrote:

    "It really depends on what your definition of closed is. MS DRM can work on any platform."

    Microsoft's WMA DRM does not work on any Mac. My definition of closed is that it is not cross platform. In my opinion, iTunes is also somewhat closed because it doesn't work on Linux (the only other major platform in the computing world today). But iTunes is less closed than WMA because at least it is on 2 platforms.

    Now, the argument is going to be (I'm guessing) that Apple can license WMA DRM and implement it for OS X if it wants. To which I counter, did Microsoft write iTunes for Windows? No. To be cross-platform and more open, Microsoft needs to show some commitment to that ideal. Right now, it is just business as usual as far as I can tell. And unfortunately for Microsoft, much of the world has already gone down that path and didn't like what they found at the end of it.

  • Anonymous
    February 06, 2005
    Neema-

    I'm not sure what the heck you are talking about. I don't sit around all day approving items for my blog. I get to them when I get to them.

    It's interesting that you think I am fooling myself. I don't.

    -Omar

  • Anonymous
    February 17, 2005
    I think when M$ uses the term "choice" they are referring to "choice" of hardware, and "choice" of software, and "choice" of music vendors.

    When dealing with the iPod and iTMS you don't have those choices. Because there is no other player. There is no other music store. In someways my heart goes out to all those people that spend thousands of dollars at iTMS. In my opinion they are locked in for life. Maybe in the long run its okay or maybe in the long run it will turn into a prison. Time will tell.

    Personally I prefer MP3 because it is universal. I can play them on my iPod. Or my computer. Or my Pocket PC. Or my Smartphone. Or my linux computer. Or my Mac.

    To me that is choice. And that is what I call "open".

    In my opinion its the DRM that robs you of your choice.

  • Anonymous
    February 17, 2005
    David Pogue has some interesting comments in Today's "Circuits" column:

    "If all the best and the brightest programmers work at
    Microsoft, you'd think they could answer questions like
    these: If I click Remove, why must I be asked twice more if I
    want to remove something? Why can't Windows keep track of
    which programs need which pieces, so Microsoft's long-
    suffering customers don't have to judge whether some shared
    DLL file is still necessary? When we install a new program,
    why aren't we asked if we'd like it to replace the older
    version, rather than making us mop up afterward?

    Of course, you already know the answer. Microsoft doesn't
    improve this kind of thing because it doesn't have to. It's
    got a bad case of a little thing called Monopoly Complacence."

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