Experiencing Windows 8 touch on Windows 7 hardware
As many no doubt know by now, we've released a Developer Preview of Windows 8. This is a build of the software designed for developers to begin developing apps using the new capabilities of Windows 8 and our new tools. The build is substantially complete across subsystems but is not a beta by any measures that we use to define a beta. The rich diversity and creativity you find within the ecosystem of hardware/software/peripherals for Windows can lead to a situation where different parts of an overall experience are available at different times. Windows 8 is in a developer preview state now, but there is not yet a broad set of PC hardware upon which to experience some of the new, hardware-specific, aspects of Windows 8. Of course Windows 8 is designed from the ground up to be an amazing upgrade (or clean install) for any PC that runs Windows 7. But we know many folks are anxious to try out some of the new scenarios and form factors that will also make Windows 8 shine.
There are no Windows 8 PCs yet, but there are PCs we have been using in our labs and that our team has been using to test the new capabilities of Windows 8. We work closely with PC makers to test early systems and will continue to do so. But we also wanted to let you know about the systems we have been working with that have touch capabilities and allow you to experience these new aspects of Windows 8. This is not an exhaustive list, and it is definitely not a recommended, certified or "logo" list. It is merely a list of machines we have experience with, and so we want to share that experience with you. We think if you're looking to experience some of the latest scenarios and aspects of Windows 8 before there are purpose-built Windows 8 machines, this is a good start.
So, this post focuses on the touch interface aspects of PCs designed for Windows 7, which also work with Windows 8. Grant George, corporate vice president for all of Windows test, and Jeff Piira, a test manager on our HIP team, authored this post together.
--Steven
Over many years in the PC ecosystem, we have seen the machine <--> human interface evolve many times. The first era was the command-line interface, where we only needed the keyboard to be able to type out commands on a black screen. The next era was the graphical user interface, where we enabled support for a mouse, in addition to a keyboard. The mouse made it easier for users to interact with “windows,” icons, menus, and pointers. Recently we have seen more and more emphasis on a natural user interface, where users interact not just with a keyboard or mouse, but also with touch. The way people interact with technology has evolved, such that touch interfaces are now more common than ever, and they can be found today across a myriad of devices ranging from 3-inch mobile phones to book readers, notebooks, large desktop displays, point of sale devices, kiosks and more. Touch is everywhere and it’s here to stay.
In Windows 8, we are taking the next step in adopting touch as a truly first-class input mechanism by evolving not only our UI, but many other platform elements as well. The goal of this blog post is not to introduce the overall story of touch for Windows 8 (that will come later), but to tell the story of hardware, how it is evolving, and what we think Windows 8 will bring to the ecosystem of touch.
Every touch interface has its own challenges to develop and perfect. However, to the end user, what matters most is the smooth, responsive, and natural experience of interacting with a device using touch. This sensation of performance is something we have prioritized heavily in Windows 8.
Performance of touch is not an easy thing to quantify, and there are many elements to consider. The speed at which the software input stack responds to the hardware is a primary factor. As much as we can make advances in optimizing the software, hardware pays a huge role in the “feel” of an immersive touch experience. For Windows 8, one of our approaches is to partner deeply with industry leaders on this aspect of touch, something which has paid off tremendously.
Another aspect of change in Windows 8 has been how we have approached the touch experience. Early on we decided to concentrate on ensuring the key user experiences are not only designed, but are fully optimized for touch. While this decision may seem trivial, it fundamentally changed how we evaluate Windows 8 on existing hardware and how we communicate with hardware partners. All of our requirements and tests are built off the user experiences rather than specific hardware centric capabilities. This helps to ensure that there is no gap between what the hardware can do and what the software expects.
So how do we define a good touch experience in Windows 8?
- Panning and touch response are precise and smooth (we call this “stick to your finger” panning).
- Touch visualization is direct and immediate.
- Targeting UI with your fingers is seamless and confident.
- Typing on the screen is quick, efficient and responsive.
- Touch application experiences are consistent. Touching these applications will work the same regardless of the device they are run on.
Touch hardware coverage
As the market for touch-enabled Windows PCs is broad, we focused our efforts on existing in-market devices to guide our initial development. Here are some of the newer Windows 7 systems that we use most commonly:
- HP Elitebook 2740p and 2760p convertible
- ASUS EP121 tablet
- Dell Inspiron Duo convertible
- Lenovo x201, x220t convertible
- 3M M2256PW 22” display
We also test Windows 8 on a broader set of in-market systems. Touch quality is not only about the touchscreen and its relationship to the user. When we’re testing complete systems, things like bezel design, graphics, CPU and cover glass can impact the Windows 8 touch experience as well. We are committed to supporting the hardware that is running with Windows 7 today and working hard to bring a good experience to our customers who upgrade. As we continue through our development cycle on Windows 8, we will update this blog and call out how progress is coming with existing in-market systems.
Below is a list of the devices we currently have in our test labs.
3M M2256PW |
Dell ST2220Tc |
HP TouchSmart_IQ526t |
Acer Aspire 1420p (PDC) |
Dell Studio 1747 |
Lenovo C320 |
Acer Aspire 1825PT |
Dell Studio One |
Lenovo S10-3T |
Acer Aspire 5738PG |
Dell SX2210T |
Lenovo ThinkPad T410S |
Acer Aspire Z5610 |
Elo 1522L |
Lenovo ThinkPad X201T |
Acer Iconia |
EXOPC |
Lenovo ThinkPad X220T |
Acer T230H |
Fujitsu Lifebook T4310 |
Lenovo ThinkPad_X60 |
Acer W500 |
HP Compaq L2105TM |
NEC MultiSync LCD175M |
ASUS EP 121 |
HP EliteBook 2740P |
Planar PX2230MW |
ASUS TCA70 |
HP Mini 5102 |
Samsung Series 7 XE700T1A |
Dell Inspiron 2305 |
HP Pavilion_tx2000 |
Sony V J series |
Dell Inspiron Duo |
HP Pavillion DV3T-2000 |
Sony V L series |
Dell Inspiron One 2305 |
HP Tablet 500 |
Sony VPCL113FX/B |
Dell Latitude E6420 |
HP TouchSmart 610 |
Sony VPCL-218FW |
Dell Latitude XT |
HP TouchSmart IQ500 |
Toshiba Portege_M700 |
Dell ST2220T |
HP TouchSmart TX2Z |
Toshiba Sattellite Har/Kar |
Touch tests
Here are a couple of examples of tests that we run to see how hardware and software works together. The first test covers new Windows 8 features that you access by swiping a finger in from the edges of the screen, like Search, Share, and Settings. (We will talk more about these features in future posts.)
To get the best experience when swiping in from the edge, touch must be responsive across the entire active screen starting at pixel 1 on each side, so we’ve developed tools to ensure that swipes are always properly detected at the edges of the screen.
To ensure a smooth panning experience, we have requirements for the latency of hardware response and panning with touch. We use a high-speed camera to measure input lag or delay between when a user touches the screen and when that action is reflected on the display. The less lag or separation between the user’s finger and the object being dragged the better!
Building new touch hardware for Windows 8
Keeping the user experience at the top of the requirements, Windows 8 will kick off a new generation of computing devices, and it is only natural that touchscreen technologies will evolve with it. Our goal on the Windows team is to work in lock step with external hardware partners in the development of new hardware that will more fully support Windows 8 requirements, and ultimately provide the smooth, responsive, and natural touch experience that Windows users expect. Our continuing work with our touch hardware partners, suppliers, IHV’s (independent hardware vendors), and PC manufacturers will help us together deliver an immersive and intuitive touch experience in Windows 8.
--Grant and Jeff
Comments
Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Adding the HP Touchpad in that list would be awesomeAnonymous
September 13, 2011
Waiting for the Release Candidate....Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Downloading the developer preview now to load on my EP121...Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Steve, watched your presentation this morning.....just wanted to say it was awesome. Congrats!Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
Congratulations to the Windows 8 team and to your interns! What was presented in a raw form today shows a well thought out journey which will have a significant impact both in the enterprise and on the consumer segments of the market. Your commitment to quality sets in my opinion the right level of expectation both internally to Microsoft and to its partners and clients.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
@fail did you even watch the keynote @microsoft, thankyou guys, it's gonna be awesomeAnonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
The show the desktop button needs to be moved elsewhere or you need to give programs on the regular desktop to either be minimized by default or have the ability to make it minimized by default. It would also be nice for a full screen button and resize indicationAnonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
Windows 8 Dev Preview fails to install on my Windows 7 HP Slate 500 because it supposedly don't support ACPI?!?!? :-(Anonymous
September 13, 2011
I simply can't wait for the public beta. I'll start with the developer preview and get back in the Visual Studio developing scene as soon as it's done downloading and installed.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
Definitely fails to install. Latest HP multi-touch hardware and Win7 Pro, device manager shows a half dozen ACPI related drivers all working fine and the Win8 Dev Preview refuses to install, keeps pretending it's not an ACPI computer (i.e. tells me that my 2011 slate is a pre-1995 PC...).Anonymous
September 13, 2011
I installed Win8 Preview version on my Lenovo X201 tablet. The tablet keys and active rotation function is not working.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
More general help with the Windows 8 Developer Preview can be found here: social.msdn.microsoft.com/.../threads Thank you very much for your support and enthusiasm!Anonymous
September 13, 2011
What is the cheapest device on that list? I want to look into the HP Compaq L2105TM monitor, but I'm worried about the large bezel extrusion (for the optical cameras) making it hard to swipe in from the side. Can anyone comment on this? Thanks!Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Ok on PC, but the ARM version?! I thinking, maybe will be cool if Microsoft let us a version to install in Tablets that already have other OS installed, focusing in Tablets with Android. Maybe an SDK to build the Windows for this devices... Well, thoughts from sleepless night...Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
About Text Glow, i personally absolutely LOVE the typography on the Lion setup screen... cfile5.uf.tistory.com/.../172127394E2CB5112E91DA you can kind of see it there, it's absolutely beautiful.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
Windows 8 is coming waiting computer “design for Windows 8”Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Uh.....can you tell me how to reformat my iPad and install Windows 8 on it?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
The HP Slate seems to fail. Any Info?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
I've been watching the demo, and I'm not going to lie, it looks pretty good, but you guys need to redo all the icons system wide, and please let them be minimalist icons, look the the Chrome 13 icon, it's gorgeous, please style your icons after that colorful minimalist style. seriously.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Microsoft, you HAVE to search the internet built in, without going to a seperate app, it has to be system wide, and you also need to knock down the walls. you're doing this picture thing, but you have to go toa seperate app to access your friends pics, you HAVE to aggregate EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE. sign into gmail, and get access to everything, start looking for wallpapers in the control panel, it automagically includes google+ pics, or facebook, or hopefully everything, (make it a plugin system, that uses Trident to crawl these things, and you basically sign in and it stores the login in your profile) and i'm not sure which, but there needs to be a filter for when looking for wallpapers, it needs to filter pics based on resolution, but in non wallpaper areas it needs to display all pics regardless of res, the only problem, is how confusing would that be to the user?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Windows 8 install ok on my Dell XPS L702x that has a touchscreen. Missing some drivers for the hardware and had to manually install the touch drivers to get multitouch to work. The new interface is pretty cool but it is definitely buggyAnonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
After work i'm going to try Windows 8 on my EeePC 1005HA ;)Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
What does it mean "What would you like to keep -> Nothing"? It's scary! s1.proxy04.twitpic.com/.../397321682.png Will Windows 8 format my hard disk, or will it simply move existing Windows files to C:windows.old?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
do not know why everyone is having any troubles but I hope it gets resolved. I installed 32bit on my test machine an old Dell Dimension E310 and all is working fine. all hardware recognized and drivers installed, downloaded updates and installed no problem. Wrote this post on the machine mentioned.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
one last thing, we need the ability to change the background of the start page, the green is disoreinting and so plain, it feels like a strange alien planet or something.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
do not know why everyone is having any troubles but I hope it gets resolved. I installed 32bit on my test machine an old Dell Dimension E310 and all is working fine. all hardware recognized and drivers installed, downloaded updates and installed no problem. Wrote this post on the machine mentioned.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
I think it's very important, that the same touch-gestures that Win8 performs on a touchscreen are also possible on the touchpad.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
@antiufo, for me, it moved existing Windows files to C:Windows.old.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
watching hd movies does not have sound in media player and it slows down the movie playback.please solve in win 7 it pays without any issue.i know it is developer preview so suggesting to fix tis lg while playing movies i window 8Anonymous
September 13, 2011
after two restarts, i'm unable to log in to my live id, it just returns me to the lock screen.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
there are lots of bugs in the apps and even after the apps get suspended they consume ram which slows the pc down.Its suggestion to build team so that this bugs can be fixed and in final version it become more stable,smooth and fast.By the way ribbon,hyper v,iso and vhd mounting is awesome.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
@paul, dude you can go on Windows as before just by thinking about it. Did you see the first Keynote ?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
I'm unable to double-boot Win 8 and 7 on the HP 2740P, trying to install Win 8 on a secondary partition, but it says it can only install on the first partition. Any work around anyone has come across? I don't want to hose my Win 7 install just yet!Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Ops, frozen on Getting System ready : pages.videotron.com/.../frozen.jpgAnonymous
September 13, 2011
I restarted the machine and now it's frozen on Preparing : pages.videotron.com/.../frozen2.jpg I don't know what I'm doing wrong...Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
does the start screen work portrait mode? Or is it like the phone where it seems to be fixated in one orientation?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
Finally I've been able to make the Windows 8 Dev Preview working. Is this normal when I click on something, it does nothing ?Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
Downloaded the Developer Preview last night. I'm looking forward to getting it up and running tonight when I get out of work.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
A big tablet the past years is the Dell XT2. I have installed windows 8 on it Runs great, but the touch is not working. Is there already a solution for it? I tried to install the ntrig driver but no luck here. thanks and keep up the good work!!Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
You foks are on the right track. Messrs. A and G should be worried. Great work so far.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 13, 2011
I take it that I can just add another HDD to my desktop (running Windows 7 x64) and install it that way without issue? Have tried to install via Virtual PC 2007 and inbuilt Windows 7 Virtual PC without joy. I was mainly after the installation screen shots, but for general playing about will just do a normal install and hope that the RC will be able to be installed via Virtual PC 2007 as Win 7 was.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
@GDF-UCDS .. yes rotate is fully supported and responds to sensors if the drivers for Windows 8 are installed. It is hard to demo portrait in af big room since it gets letterboxed on the projectors. Rotate is awesome on the Samsung Preview device. If your montor supports rotation you can "manually" rotate via the desktop cpl. just search for "orientation" or "rotate" in settings.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
@GDF-UCDS .. yes rotate is fully supported and responds to sensors if the drivers for Windows 8 are installed. It is hard to demo portrait in af big room since it gets letterboxed on the projectors. Rotate is awesome on the Samsung Preview device. If your montor supports rotation you can "manually" rotate via the desktop cpl. just search for "orientation" or "rotate" in settings.Anonymous
September 13, 2011
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September 14, 2011
@raymond, it does work with portrait mode. Checkout the engadget post: www.engadget.com/.../windows-8-for-tablets-hands-on-previewAnonymous
September 14, 2011
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September 14, 2011
Why doesn't it support HP touchsmart tm2? I get the ACPI not supported error. don't know what that is and how to fix it. help please!Anonymous
September 14, 2011
anyone tried to install in a hp slate 500 ? I have tried and it fails saying that it's not acpi compatible, but the slate itself runs win7. anyone ?Anonymous
September 14, 2011
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September 14, 2011
@Varemenos : I agree, adding the 99$ HP Touchpad would bring MS a lot of involved Beta testers for the ARM version of Win8 !!!Anonymous
September 14, 2011
System wide Spellchecker! and SmoothScroll in IE... WOW just ammmmmmazing! Thank you! Am I Loving Windows.8 or Windows Octal?Anonymous
September 14, 2011
Nice. I've been meaning to buy a touch-screen laptop, however now that I see Win8 (and thus feel the urge to go touchscreen), I'm wondering whether it would be wise to do so and then upgrade to Win8, or just wait until Win8 is out there. The concern is mainly over the hardware issues. Any thoughts? Cheers!Anonymous
September 14, 2011
I installed W8 on my Q550... works slow, but works well. But... am I stupid or there is not the floating Tablet Input Panel? The new virtual keyboard is GREAT but a non-floating TIP is a VERY BIG STEP FORWARD. Since XP TPCE the TIP is the core of a “true” tablet, you can not leave it in a back position that cover a large part of the screen. There is a lot of great pen-only Tablet PCs out there and without the floating TIP you cannot use it easily… please, tell me that a Windows 7-like TIP will be available in W8.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
@Steven Sinofsky I installed W8 on my Q550... works slow, but works well. But... am I stupid or there is not the floating Tablet Input Panel? The new virtual keyboard is GREAT but a non-floating TIP is a VERY BIG STEP FORWARD. Since XP TPCE the TIP is the core of a “true” tablet, you can not leave it in a back position that cover a large part of the screen. There is a lot of great pen-only Tablet PCs out there and without the floating TIP you cannot use it easily… please, tell me that a Windows 7-like TIP will be available in W8.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
I have not found a solution on the HP Slate 500's supposed lack of ACPI. Someone on another forum said it installed on his slate. So I figure it some setting somewhere should make it work.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
@Sundaravenkataraman and the beta? milestone 1 > milestone 2 > milestone 3 > Developer Preview > pre-beta > beta 1 > pre rc > Release candidate > pre rtm > rtm > GAAnonymous
September 14, 2011
Installed on a Lenovo ThinkPad T410S (you mentioned you had one in your lab) - no luck getting the multitouch screen driver to behave. The Win7 one does not install and the one packaged with Win8 is super shaky and it does not allow me to tap/click. The thing uses N-Trig DuoSense multitouch digitizer.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
Installed on a Lenovo ThinkPad T410S (you mentioned you had one in your lab) - no luck getting the multitouch screen driver to behave. The Win7 one does not install and the one packaged with Win8 is super shaky and it does not allow me to tap/click. The thing uses N-Trig DuoSense multitouch digitizer.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
I have installed Windows 8 on my PC. Must appreciate the good work. Start Menu looks awesome and new task manager too. what all a user can hope in windows 8 - http://bit.ly/mRjdbSAnonymous
September 14, 2011
How do you not have the TM2? Or the T101MT? The X61 would be nice also, for that matter.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
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September 14, 2011
I have installed it on my MSI CR630 -Tri Core an love and i love it. Thank you guys.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
@Paul Good idea. They cannot make a mouse+keyboard UI touch friendly without making every object large and bloat away the screen space. So far the ribbon menu system have some elements very large, but most are too small for finger use. I hope they do as you suggest, let the UI dynamically change when the user disconnects from keyboard/mouse, or chooses to do so. There is so much space wasted so far on what I have seen to make desktop more touch friendly, for instance: huge icons on the ribbon file menu farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/3011160892_1868a17fd9.jpg huge task bar which have often almost 70% of its area unused www.blogsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Windows-7-Taskbar-Texturizer.png I really look forward to the explorer QAT and I really hope i can still set the task bar to small icons like win7 jooh.no/web/Windows_7_multiple_small_explorer_windows_file_management.png Easier and faster to identify programs and explorer folders if I have both a small icon and its name instead of clicking an icon and identifying a thumbnail and then another click. please please please :) BTW here's a way to bring back windows 7 start menu on windows 8 www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/how-to-get-a-windows-7-start-menu-in-windows-8-20110914/Anonymous
September 14, 2011
Are you guys doing to add touchsmart anytime soon? Would love to try it on my touch notebook!Anonymous
September 14, 2011
Can anyone confirm the score of Acid3 on ie10pp3?Anonymous
September 14, 2011
Adding the Gigabyte S1080 would be nice. I'm going to try to install it to mine and see how it fares anyhow.Anonymous
September 14, 2011
Hmm. HP mini 5102 - I've got one of those here, and Windows 8 could be the excuse I need to wipe off all this HP stuff. :)Anonymous
September 14, 2011
I reply to myself: Windows 8 will have DirectX version 11.1, I've read it on a .PDF file. Few new things, as the desktop part of Windows 8... :(Anonymous
September 14, 2011
the driver from Lenovo (win7) wont install as its a nonrecognizable OS... any help?Anonymous
September 14, 2011
@Steven Sinofsky Hey Steven, there is errors with Skype, after install, it won't load when user name and password is typed in. I can't find a give feedback link to tell you guys so I may leave it here. Can you get some of those guys to fix it?Anonymous
September 14, 2011
When you guys installed on the Acer Aspire 1420p (PDC), did you get an updated driver for the ST Micro Screen sensor? I have tried installing a couple of different versions, but Windows keeps blocking the driver from starting. Thanks.Anonymous
September 15, 2011
I'd love to see Apple added to the list. I know a number of Windows devs who use Apple hardware e.g. MacBook Air, myself included.Anonymous
September 15, 2011
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September 15, 2011
testing 1,2,3 where does the comments go when I submit them?Anonymous
September 15, 2011
How about Multi-Touch monitors? View Sonic?Anonymous
September 15, 2011
How about Multi-Touch monitors? View Sonic?Anonymous
September 15, 2011
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September 15, 2011
Loading it on my Toshiba R830, amazing kit, fantastic software.Anonymous
September 15, 2011
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September 15, 2011
@Eric burford I am guessing you do not have at least 1024x7680resolutionAnonymous
September 15, 2011
I'm hoping that later on you guys will include Lenovo S10-3t to the list.Anonymous
September 15, 2011
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September 15, 2011
Also, forgot to mention that Snapping doesnt work. I know 1200 x 800 is not windescreen, but close to it. So it should be possible I think. Hope I'll be able to do this in the final version. Sorry for the double post!Anonymous
September 16, 2011
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September 16, 2011
Hum, by the way, would it be possible to support Sharing from desktop app using clipboard (if it contains a simple text or an image) ? That would be a nice enhancement from the current behavior.Anonymous
September 16, 2011
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September 16, 2011
I'm the owner of Dell SX2210T, and I really wonder why Windows 8 doesn't include NextWindow drivers. If you want provide "a great experience for touch", including most popular drivers for touch displays is not a desire, but a requirement. Hope to see drivers included in the future builds :)Anonymous
September 17, 2011
I am using Dell studio1747. The touch features is not working properly. I tried to install n-trig driver. but the OS doesn't support. any workaround? ThanksAnonymous
September 17, 2011
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September 19, 2011
Back home after //Build/ and want to say Win8 is awesome! A definite leap over all the others (desktop and mobile). But will it ship on time to keep the lead? Hurry MS!Anonymous
September 20, 2011
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September 20, 2011
Hi, Is it possible to get a short list or compatible tablets that I can search for to purchase to test my app(s)?Anonymous
September 21, 2011
seconded, a short list of compatible tablets would be greatAnonymous
September 21, 2011
Shortlist would be great but can you also indicate sensor availability and compatibility? (specifically for motion but a checkbox of all sensor types would be great!)Anonymous
September 21, 2011
Shortlist would be great but can you also indicate sensor availability and compatibility? (specifically for motion but a checkbox of all sensor types would be great!)Anonymous
September 21, 2011
Can you include sensor availability/compatibility in any shortlist you may or may not produce? (specifically for motion but all would be great). Thanks.Anonymous
September 21, 2011
BTW In case anyone else is interested the Acer 1640p (PDC Laptop) plays well with touch in Windows 8Anonymous
September 21, 2011
Wow, sorry, kept getting 404's on postback then reposting ...Anonymous
September 21, 2011
I also have the 1747, I wonder whether you guys are having trouble with that hardware too or it is just us.Anonymous
September 22, 2011
+1 on the 1747. Only single-touch so far. I tried with the drivers from Dell and N-Trig, but no luck with 64bit.Anonymous
September 23, 2011
I ran the dev preview for a week on the MSI Windpad 110w (GREAT new hardware)...I'm back on Win 7 till the final beta before the RC is available, not stable enough, looks like Win8 just barely more advanced from Win 7 in this edition...Anonymous
September 25, 2011
I am running your new Beta "Windows 8" on an Acer W500 and like it very much. Now I would like to have the touch screen features on my touch screen HP. I did not see any download opportunities in this blog but I think the new and improved touch screen might improve my HP performance. JohnAnonymous
September 26, 2011
I installed the windows developer preview and found it's amazing and many times better than any other OS, i know it is developed to use touch PC's but as i also experienced it and i also want to experience it as touch, So, i would like to say that as you people are working on to get it in the market as it is made for i.e to use as touch OS on compatible hardware then ask the PC manufacturers or Hardware manufacturers to provide a touch transparent screen, which can be use with Screens running windows 7 and it's price range should reasonable so that any layman who can think for a normal PC for windows7 or 8 can go for it.Anonymous
September 26, 2011
I just tried out the developer beta on my Fujitsu T4220, and the experience so far is pretty awesome. One gripe that I have is that you can't use the pen to pan the panorama control (instead you have to use the little scrollbars near the bottom of the screen). Is the lack of support for panning via pen a design choice, or simply the result of the developer preview being incomplete?Anonymous
September 28, 2011
There are a number of comments about Windows 8 multi-touch on the Dell Studio 1747. It is known that multi-touch does not work with some 3rd party drivers including the one on this device. There is no workaround at this time.Anonymous
September 28, 2011
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October 02, 2011
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October 15, 2011
HELP me with problem audio sound " One or more audio service isn't running " after check audio devices = Issues not present ,but have instaled hd audio driver and when open my sound card see '' No audio devices are instaled" Please help me RUNNING Windows Developer PreviewAnonymous
October 15, 2011
HELP me with problem audio sound " One or more audio service isn't running " after check audio devices = Issues not present ,but have instaled hd audio driver and when open my sound card see '' No audio devices are instaled" Please help me RUNNING Windows Developer PreviewAnonymous
October 16, 2011
In my desktop, if you guys are so afraid of the mouse, I would prefer kinect over touch, because touching my really expensive monitor is something I do not want.Anonymous
October 18, 2011
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