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Whidbey Beta Tip#1 Addendum: C# Screensaver Starter kit is in Express only

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Don asks whether the C# Screensaver starter kit is in the Express SKU only? The answer is yes. We werent quite sure whether to ship this in the SKU meant for professional developers so we didnt. What do you think? Should the SKU meant for professional developers (Ent Architect etc) have Starter Kits that are more targeted to the hobbyist market? What sort of starter kits would you expect in an Enterprise Archtect like SKU?

BTW as a workaround you can always copy the starter kit and its files to the Ent Architect SKU. Check the docs on how to do this - its just a project template.

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  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
    I doubt I'd ever use the screensaver starter kit, but after forking out lots of money for the professional version of Visual Studio, I'd be annoyed if it were missing features that come in the "lite" version.
  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
    Hmmm Starter Kits for the enterprise. Well, I could use a "Just Get It Done" starter kit, a "It must be 100% reliable, bug free, low cost and done by next week" starter kit, and my favorite, an "Outsourcing Starter Kit".
  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
    Of course, the enterprise user would like to have a superset of what everyone else is getting. If I'm bumping around an area I'm not familiar with, I'd appreciate a few 'hello world' type examples to play with during a lunchbreak before cracking into the real work.
  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
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  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
    I'm an MSDN Universal subscriber and I'm interested in the sample app. There is obviously at least some overlap between the sets of "professional developers" (even "enterprise developers") and "people interested in starter kits." There is nothing unprofessional about starter kits.

    Like Paul said, each tier of a product to be a superset of the tiers below it.

    -Don
  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
    I would prefer if the starter kits weren't part of the install, but I could just download the starter kit as a sample application, just like I can with the current asp.net and WinForms sample apps.
  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2004
    Come on people, we're professional developers here; our Screensavers should be 5 tier, XML driven, OO/AOP, 6 month projects of beauty. We don't need no toy screensaver project!
  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2004
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  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2004
    Just because someone is a professional developer doesn't mean they're not a hobby developer too.

    I do professional work during business hours and write hobby type apps at home or on weekends. I'd certainly want the screen saver starter in VS Pro.

    More importantly, I want a VB version of the screen saver in VS Pro. Seems like most of Microsoft's screen saver samples over the years have been in some form of C so I have to translate the interesting parts to VB 5/6/.net to use them and it's a huge pain. At least C# to VB is an easier translation but I really wish it came with VB to begin with.
  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2004
    I'm not sure what 'new' starter kits i'd want, but i think each level of visual studio should have all the features and stuff of the one before, plus more. So each 'full' visual studio should have everything that is available for express, plus the extras that place it at that level. Visual studio full should have all teh express starters, plus others.

    My 2 cents.
  • Anonymous
    July 06, 2004
    Yes, include 'em. I'd use it!
  • Anonymous
    August 09, 2004
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    May 29, 2009
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