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ADO.NET Entity Framework on Channel 9

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A few weeks ago we released a couple of whitepapers that discuss the future directions of the Microsoft Data Platform and in particular the specifics around the next version of ADO.NET and the ADO.NET Entity Framework.

Recently the Channel 9 folks came by Building 35 (SQL Server building at Microsoft) and we shot an episode with Mike Pizzo, Britt Johnston and myself chatting about why we chose to work on the Entity Framework for the next version of ADO.NET, what scenarios we’re targeting with it and some drill downs into what the code and designers actually look like in the current bits.

You can find the Channel 9 video here. As always, feedback is welcome.
 
Pablo Castro
ADO.NET Technical Lead
Microsoft Corporation

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  • Anonymous
    July 19, 2006

    While watching Jim Gray's PASS video that Alex referenced in the previous post it reminded...

  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    Are you still targetting August for the first community drop?  If so are we looking at the beginning of August or the end of August? :)

    What databases will be supported for the CTP?  What databases will be supported at RTM time?

    Cheers,
    Steve



  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    Building 35 (SQL Server building at Microsoft)? ADO guys with SQL guys on the same building? Finally they are talking to each other...

  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    Great video! I think many people will use this as a resource in the future. Personally I found the screen shots really hard to follow - perhaps next time it would be good to do a direct screen cast, but only if you don't loose the great spontaneity of this format.

    Otherwise Pablo, we need to get you some art work for your office. I'll see what I can rustle up…

  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    >> Are you still targetting August for the first community drop?  If so are we looking at the beginning of August or the end of August? :)

    Yes, we're still shooting for August; we're looking at the mid/end of August.

    >> What databases will be supported for the CTP?  What databases will be supported at RTM time?

    For the CTP we'll support SQL Server 2005, and we should have parity (or close) for SQL 2000 (of course, if you use 2005-specific features such as CROSS APPLY it won't work in 2000). We're working with various provider writers to get a number of databases integrated; it's looking really good, and hopefully we'll have broad database support soon. Whether that will be there over the CTP bits or on future CTPs/Betas is hard to tell at this point.

    Also, the model is open, so anyone can create an updated ADO.NET provider that includes the new extensions and fit into the Entity Framework (and you get mapping, Entity SQL, LINQ, etc. support for free for your database :)

    -pablo

  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
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  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    Thanks for the responses Pablo!

    I'm really looking forward to the bits so that I can start to see how new providers can be created on top of the baseline that you guys provide.

    Regarding database support...What about Sql Everywhere? :)

    Are there any common database scenarios that you won't be supporting?  I know DLinq (Linq to Sql) doesn't currently support many to many relationships, will ADO.NET EF support creating conceptual models over all the typical relational models that we all have in use today?  Or are there some common scenarios (such as Many to Many) that you won't be supporting?

    Finally, if I give you $5 can you release it in the beginning of August instead of the middle/end? :-)

    Cheers,
    Steve

  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
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  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    >> Regarding database support...What about Sql Everywhere? :)

    Very likely, although I don't know release dates, version numbers, etc.

    >> Are there any common database scenarios that you won't be supporting?

    Yes, there are scenarios that we won't support. When we come out with the CTP I'll let you guys take a look and come back with feedback. Many to many will most likely be supported, but other constructs won't.

    >> Finally, if I give you $5 can you release it in the beginning of August instead of the middle/end? :-)

    I'll take your offer to upper management, may be it does the trick ;)

  • Anonymous
    July 20, 2006
    Britt Johnston, Mike Pizzo and Pablo Castro are interviewed by Charles Torre in this Channel 9 video...

  • Anonymous
    July 22, 2006
    Very existing stuff!

    Will it also be possible to access XML-Documents this way?

  • Anonymous
    July 24, 2006
    Nice one pablo, you do a mean presentation!

  • Anonymous
    July 26, 2006
    Will the entity classes implement the INotifyPropertyChanged and/or ObservableCollection<> interfaces?

    By the way this is great technology. I am very tired of writing data access code.

  • Anonymous
    July 26, 2006
    >> Will the entity classes implement the INotifyPropertyChanged and/or ObservableCollection<> interfaces?

    Yes, entities implement INotifyPropertyChanged (only, no ObservableCollection).

    -pablo

  • Anonymous
    August 15, 2006
    Tocmai am aflat că a apărut ediţia august 2006 a CTP-ului de ADO.NET vNext. Dacă v-au plăcut demo-urile...

  • Anonymous
    August 15, 2006
    The ADO.NET vNext Community Technology Preview ('CTP') went live today...Hopefully I can convince Tommy...

  • Anonymous
    August 15, 2006
    the August CTP release of the next release of ADO.NET, vNext, has been released. the announcement is...

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    October 25, 2008
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